Episode #107

Hey guys, thank you so much for listening to the gig economy podcast today we had two guests Oh Steve Johnson from rideshare rodeo and John McCain alien. And yes stepping in for Yes sir. Yes, Bruce mom passed away. And so we need some subs because Mr. Gaspar was in Denmark so we can't thank John and Steve enough for stepping in. Studio sponsor is Irvine's auto repair Grand Rapids hybrid and EV call them at 532 6600 If you're in the Grand Rapids, or West Michigan area, or you can schedule service, Irvine stock comm they are incredible. They are amazing. And I love them so much for supporting us. They've been the longest running sponsor that we have had on the show and we can't thank them enough for doing that. Also a new sponsor Middleton technologies. Middleton Tech has the apps Maximo driver utility helper Amazon flex, those three apps can help you save money, help you stay safe on the road, the link is in the description, you will make more money I guarantee you on that. Basically these apps declined for you except for you. There's tons of parameters you can set up for Uber Lyft. Uber Eats DoorDash GrubHub Amazon flex, it's just incredible. Middleton technologies you can search them on the web or we would love you to click the link in the description. Alright guys enjoy the show. Hi, guys, welcome to the gig economy podcast. Thank you so much for joining us. This studio is sponsored by Irvine's auto repair Grand Rapids hybrid, and we cannot thank them enough. We'll talk about them a little bit later. Apparently, Gary's in two separate chats. Welcome to the show. Steve from rideshare. Rodeo. And John. Oh god, I forgot to ask John. This is how I pronounce your last name John. Kelly and Mikayla and it's so wonderful when Steve said it it sounds so. American Alien close. Yeah. Is that right?

Well, there are media pronounciation is mkhaya Leon Mike like Michael Mikheyev how you taught me? Okay. Yeah, me kya Leon but yeah McHale he's so works

all right. Well,

I appreciate you guys just to let you know we're not gonna get have a super sad moment. But yes, he's not here tonight. His mother passed away. And she lives in Denmark. Well, yes. First from Denmark and all his family is in Denmark. So he is actually overseas right now. I think it's like three in the morning there four in the morning there. I don't know. He just messaged me too, because I asked him if he was there yet. I'm like, What are you doing up this late? But anyways, so these guys are stepping in which we wanted John on a while ago. And Steve Well, you know, it's kind of a pity invite Steve but this kitten buddy. If you could share the show and all your groups, Facebook, Twitter, retweet it like it, do all the stuff that's free that we'd really appreciate it. Everything gig economy related for this show is gig economy show.com Check out our tic tac we also have a Facebook group. And just want to mention our Patreon members real quick Keith from Indiana Larry from Bowling Green Samsung from Grand Rapids. Steve from Colorado. Chris from Grand Rapids James from Fort Collins, but Dickman from North Carolina and Mr. Tom Kelley from Houston, Texas. Thank you so much. I appreciate that telegram group you can join that all these links or anything I talked about are in the description and then of course rideshare rodeo I talked about this mofo every single show well, twice a month at least check his show out I mean, he this bro podcasts and interviews like crazy like every time I like go to YouTube just to like do some work on some videos is like Steve is live Steve his life. Just like my gosh, when you eat sleep and poop and parent and parents and love your beautiful fiance like she might be like,

Oh my God, everything Do you must die? No, it's crazy. And

she's but yeah, check out Steve go to rent writer radio.com or Uber? Lyft drivers.com or anywhere you download podcasts. All right, so I have no stories from the road. I am back to work, even though it was a little bit of a rainy day today. But John, my boy from it's la right. You're straight up in Los Angeles. Yeah, Los Angeles County to be exact. Okay. Well, tell me your story from the road. I hope it's better than my stories, which is nothing.

Well, this is one of the strangest deliveries I've ever done. I was in a DoorDash delivery. I want to say Sunday, Sunday night, had a pretty good payout. I get there and it was handed to me order every time I see a hand to me order. I always message the customer while I'm at the restaurant like Hey, I noticed that you pretended to me Do you want me to head to you or leave that door? Most people are like, no no, please leave that door open. So anyway, I met this guy and no response I get there. I ring doorbell takes them to Mr comes out. And this guy has his right hand in his pants. Like, I hope this isn't what I'm thinking it is. Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah, like deep down in his pants. I'm like, Okay, I'm like, Hey, did you want me just, you know, leave it right here, which is what I wanted to do and say anything's like, no, no, I prefer to hand it like handed it to me. I don't want it on the ground. Okay, and so I handed up one of those two bags, I handed one of the bags, and he's like, he's like, Hold on. I'll be right back. I gotta put this down. So he goes back inside his hand is still his pants. He puts the bag and it comes out like 45 seconds later grabs the other one. He says thanks. And that was it. But like this whole time, his hand was like, isn't it pants? Like it was just strange

was

the Hey, I was picturing something different, I hope what were you thinking like it was even worse. I was like, is his hands in his pants that he wants you to hand it off to like he's putting it through a zipper. Oh.

Sweet Jesus. That's actually a very good description. If you are the office fan, it made me think about when Michael stuck his hand through his crotch through the zipper. And he did he like, do a middle finger or maybe not. It was something

that was so it was something about the flasher. Yeah. Pleasure.

Yes. Incredible. So was the guy moving his hand or is just like holding his junk?

Nobody's holding it. Maybe he's walking with him too. He's like walking like a penguin like

I bet he had like a swollen nut.

Like he probably was hardest rock. I don't know.

I didn't mean like that. I mean, like he maybe had a hernia or something.

Then he should go to the hospital. Yeah, but if that's the case,

yes. Because the Waddle makes me think that he there had a hernia or he had a big load in his pants or something. I don't know.

My God the way it wasn't a very pleasing to look at.

That's interesting, John, that you actually text the customer when you see hand it to me do you do that? Just so there's no confusion?

Yeah, cuz sometimes I'll ring doorbell and then they'll open door be like, like I was expecting to leave that door. They don't even realize that that because like a lot of times they'll do or third party to the restaurant. Yeah. Default their default is handed to me. It's not like that door that when the food comes. They're not expecting to hand it to me.

Do you have Pinero This is stupid. Of course. You probably have Panera buy you Panera Bread? Yeah. They're specific that you have to like call the customer when you're on your way through DoorDash. And then you have to make contact. I'm like, screw that. I'm dropping to

know that shit. I just leave that door and bounce.

Yeah, thank goodness. So Steve, you got any stories from the road at all?

I got an old one that I was reminded of that I'll bring up because it really bothered me. I was talking to rideshare Lisa. And we're we're just we're talking about something about New York cabs. And somehow this came up. And it was an old it was an older obviously it's an older rideshare story. But it was a time I went to a bar and a guy came out in a suit he had ordered the the car right, so pull up. And first of all, you guys need to know I'm a big like, if I give to one charity and I do every year, but if I just give two if I can only give to one and do one thing. It's always the Denver rescue mission. Okay, that's, that's my that's my thing. Even when I ran the bars. We did We did. We did things fundraisers to help them and things to help them we've I've worked with them personally on a business level everything. But this guy calls and he comes out of the bar in a suit. And he kind of leans towards my car weird. Like he's not going for the handle. And so I rolled down the window and like, what's up? And he's like, he's like, Yeah, I called the car. And then we verified the name. And he's like, he's like, I want you to take that guy to the Denver rescue mission. And there was a guy like in I mean, just torn clothes. He had pissed himself. He's sitting on a tarp. I mean, like the works he had like a shopping cart full of crap. And the guy's like, I'll tip you 10 bucks. And I remember feeling just awful because I just shoot this whole thing down where it's one of those situations I should have just drove away from Yeah, and canceled it and said dude, Fu and don't do that to another driver. Right? But it was at a time in my in my earlier days with Rideshare when I was you know, I was like you know still trying to play it off and even the homeless guy was you won't take me cuz I stank and like the whole scene just I just, you know, I've been having all these good memories about rideshare lately, and I have no doubt that one came up with Lisa the other day and it was just really like brought me a negative feeling. I don't know. Yeah.

Why was this guy in a business suit trying to get he was he was

feeling like he was Big Man Bye. Oh, I'm gonna get you to the mission. Oh, yeah, get you knew by doing the right thing you know, like so what I'm gonna you know like so what I'm going to make $6 to absolutely trash my car and and you know what you're going to tip me 10 bucks after this ride my nights over and have to go my car details

yeah what a conflict of interest for you right? Because you're like yeah you want to do the right thing you support the mission but like I honestly I would have drove away to like

it just made me it's it's that though it's that I support the mission and that this and that where it wasn't like he was even going to one of the other two places he was going to the one that I do support. Okay, and I wanted to get a little aggravated at the homeless guy too and be like, listen, dude, it's 15 blocks and you got to cart right walk?

Yeah, you've been walking for a long time. But if the guy was offering a ride like, you know, right, but

that was my point. How dare you? How dare you do that? Put them in your car? Yeah, exactly.

You give them a ride.

No one's got some Marissa said she made a good point. Why? Why didn't he put him in his own car?

Yeah, he's trying to

he was he was drinking at the bar. The guy probably asked him for $1 or two. He was like, I'll do you one better. Where do you need to go? Because he came out of the bar. And that's what I was saying. It wasn't he wasn't coming out to get in my car. And you know, you know that feeling when somebody's like got a story. They're coming up. There was a weird angle.

Yeah. Wow. Well, let's solve those or that doesn't happen again for you. So before we jump into gig economy news, Irvine's auto repair Grand Rapids hybrid and EV my friend Megan, which we haven't seen on the show in a long time and to harass her about that. Go to Irvine's dot com to schedule your service. Hopefully I won't be bringing my car there very soon because I'm done doing gig work. It's been so nice. Y'all like just driving to and from a building. And then like, you know, it's basically I drive like 50 miles a day instead of 150 miles at $14 or 14.5 miles per gallon, which is shitty, but anyways, so 532 60 6600 Obviously, they're incredible. They always say they're not the cheapest, but they're the best they'll fix it right the first time. Obviously, if you do go there and get service, please mention that you heard it from the gig economy. Podcast. Alright, so first up, so this is interesting. I am famous you all I am on I was on the news. In Los Angeles. I think,

Kate Wow. KTLA Channel Five.

That's me. So, this guy reached out to me he wants to talk to me about we actually talked about in the last show the dogs, the renting the sniff, whatever. It's sniff dogs sniff sniff space. I don't frickin know. They'll probably talk about in here. But I just realized I don't think I pulled that frickin video like a dumbass. Why does this happen? Like every show? I'm serious. Hang on one second. I'm a dumbass. Before we jump into that, let's I want Steve to to talk about this a little bit. Because, you know, what I talked about with Steve Show is the smartness. This is a sometimes a dick and balls show. And which I love. But sometimes I like to get down and dirty. And I want to talk a little bit about Steve to talk about love about the Uber partners or the yellow taxi companies in New York City. Do you have any knowledge on that? I know we touched on it a little bit on your show back with Gary and John. Right. Or was that on the radio show?

No, that was the YouTube show.

I think it was no, actually yeah, member because you and I even brought up that was weird. He didn't even bring it up on the radio. Yeah, that's

right. That's right.

Because I was trying to avoid it that night anyway, because we had just talked about it the night before. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, so yeah. I mean, what what to start, and we've known that. We've known that Uber wants Yellow Cab for a long time. We know that when Uber came around and started populating New York City, that yellow cab never even attempted to make a universal app. That was the downfall. That was the problem. Right? You know, you couldn't go from and not just New York, you couldn't go from any big city to any big city land turn on yellow cab, and it worked in that city, you would have to download Phoenix Yellow Cab, Minneapolis, Yellow Cab, Chicago, Yellow Cab, so you'd have to go figure out which cab company you're going to use in that city. Download the app, create an account for a visit who's going to do that? You just open it Uber. Yeah. So the universal app killed in New York did end up getting an app for the cabs, but it was too late in the game. And even with the app if it had launched at the right time I universal it might have helped overall but for New York City. Those medallions people are the ones who are able to hail so I mean, they pay a lot of money for that. And so they just were left behind in the game. And nobody really ever took care of them. So now they're being on the app. It's it's I think it starts in like 10 days. So they'll you'll be able to get, you'll be able to get your cab through the app so it'll have prices, the cab drivers will see everything up front. Uber drivers will not the cab drivers will see here's here's the offer. Here's how far you're going. Here's the address you're going to here's the pickup they're going to see full transparency and they're also going to still be able to hail ride so if you're familiar with the New York City's the only place in the United States you can hail a cab if you're familiar with what hailing is. Yeah, just

Yeah. You don't have to call dispatch or anything like that.

Right. I mean, like in most cities, you could be at a hotel and the and the guy parking cars and you know all that valet can take care of you with cabs, they got a cab line. But like you can't hail a cab on a street any really anywhere. So that's kind of a last thing. But in Manhattan, you have to be a yellow cab, and you have to be have a medallion still, even though these medallions are worthless, you still have to have one interesting to be able to hail a cab. And if you're like a green cab, or the other company, they're in the boroughs. You can only service the boroughs you can't and you can drop off in Manhattan, but you can't pick back up hold. That's what these medallions did was they created like it was supposed to create, like a lifetime. Like it for me if I lived there a good blue collar living you know, it was what a medallion was supposed to do for your lifetime. And then be able to pass it down to your son or sell it or rent it or whatever when you retired. But it wasn't even like when you retire it it was over. It still was supposed to have a value. Now they have no value. rideshare is down and cab rides are down. Right. A lot of the articles on this read that people are there's not enough drivers. That's just straight up wrong. Yeah, that

that that when they did say that? I thought that's strange. There's

I mean, that's just straight up wrong. There's too many. There's too many Uber drivers. And there's too many taxis. Right right now. So even an even New York City though, that's crazy. So what they're doing No, yeah, they're gonna the cabs can still go about their day and do what they want to do how they always have. But they also can turn on the Uber app and take Uber rides. My thought on this is that it's a logistical play for Uber. Yes, they'll either either Yellow Cab will be out of business and just begging them to buy them for like pennies on the dollar. After six months, or else they'll say, You know what, we don't like this arrangement. And Uber Oh, great. We're pulling out and they'll say we've got six months of logistics of where every one of your cabs travels,

right? It's kind of a win win for Uber.

Yeah, it's like, you know, I mean, for 10 years, they've been saying, We're gonna kill all you yellow taxis, right? Especially in New York. We're gonna just crush you. And now it's like, these people are really supposed to believe. Hey, look, Uber is going to take care of us. Yes,

they're like real? No, man. Yeah, so when they take an Uber, when they throw in the if they're going to take Uber rides, they're getting paid the same as like, you know, the guy that doesn't have that?

I don't know. I just know that they're gonna see it all up front. Like everything we want. They're gonna get us be us. Why do you think that? The I think I mean, clearly, it's just that they're gonna be there bite because once they realize how well it doesn't pay? Well,

well, I guess why I know why Uber did it. But why did the Yellow Cab say yeah, we want to do this?

Because I think because. I don't know. Rice. Yeah. I mean, there's there's other people. I mean, Noah, I don't know if you know, Noah from New York City. He drives a lot at night. He used to be a cab driver. Now he's a rideshare driver has a YouTube channel. Okay. Um, he says a lot of cabs are just parked right now. Okay, so they wanted to make any money. They're not even sometimes parked with a driver. They're just parked, which is an unheard of thing. You just see him parked? Yeah. I mean, they need they need a bigger database to feed them.

Right. Couple of things. I don't I remember what this comment is about from the radio show. But I don't know how it applies to this show. So that's funny, Gary, it doesn't. Okay, that's just random. I guess.

It might have been from my story.

Oh, yeah. And his pants. Yeah, that's true. I just want to say Hi, Tom. Thanks for chiming in. Matthew says Uber taking care of drivers that's like the lion saying the Lions have talent. Now. Let me Sir, our super our quarterback just won a Super Bowl. So low blow. So going back to my article, they pulled the video off the site because I took the link from the reporter and there was a video on there and they pulled it it's just written but anyways, I I basically had 10 Maybe four seconds and it's and I got to say, I know these apps say they all have This insurance but I definitely I would definitely look into your homeowner insurance before you do that. So Jason theory host of the gig economy podcast. That's all I had on air two, but he interviewed me for like 10 minutes. It was a really good conversation. I was so bummed they cut. I mean, I figured they cut some of it out, but they cut 98% of it out.

So what was it that made them find you?

I don't know. They probably just googled gig economy or whatever.

It was. I mean, like, but it was it was the news, not the company.

Right? It was the news. Yeah, it was the reporter for the tech reporter for KTLA. I'm sure he just googled rideshare something I don't know. But, I mean, if you if you search gig economy, and then

No, no, no, I would assume they'd want somebody who, who knows who has used this or knows.

I told him, I never heard of it. So I'm gonna go I don't know. I think what it was is he reached out probably to a bunch of people. It was in the morning for me, he he emailed he's la time. So it's like, you had a deadline, and I got back to him right away and within like a half hour or so I'm sure that's probably what it was. But anyways, I

mean, if you would use the app or knew of it, then it would make sense. I was just like, why? Yeah.

And again, so I at least I can know that I did forget to pull the video, but the video was not there. Because the only link I have even the one that John shared is the same one I had. But anyway, I'll

just remote read the sounded weird. Did you learn anything about it? The app? Yeah, yeah,

I did. I guess my biggest concern, he kept asking about the concerns of the app. And I'm always focused on insurance, like, how is someone going to get sued in this? You know, and I actually interviewed a guy tonight from a company that is actually providing backend insurance for Uber. They want to be the what was it? Is it Tom river insurance that Uber had for a while in that time River? What was it called their river? But anyways, so I'm always talking to insurance companies and, and then that's what I focused on in the interview that they cut 95% of it out, so fuck them. Alright, moving on. First, this is a little picture. It's an article from the Facebook group. He says I drive a Tesla Model three Boomer or not Boomer bragging camp for Uber and had a lady freak the fuck out after she couldn't open my door. I told her like six eight times a hole down on the button, push the door out, she could not figure it out. So after struggling to open the door, she rolled the window down and tried to reach for the door handle from the outside. The door handles are flush with the car. So she panicked and started yelling for help. I think she thought I was trapping her in the car or something. I had to get the door open for Yeah, I mean, there is something fancy about the the handles right? You have to like you said this hold on to it, and then they pop out or something like that.

The problem is, is they look like you're supposed to push them all the way in? Yes. You know, yeah, really. You're just touching them. And by touching and going up it is. It's not a skill, but it's something you need to go through once to understand. It's like you got to push it and push it up. Oh, you Oh, shit.

Oh, gotcha. Yeah, it's not

No, like we'd be going.

Yeah, no, that's true. But I kind of feel bad for the lady. She was freaking out. Like the guy was like locking her in there. But I don't know one of our longtime fans Leo actually just ordered a Tesla. He's gonna get it in August. So he didn't get it. I don't know what he got. I think it's whatever the basic Tesla's model three. Is it model three? Yeah, whatever. A basic Well, I mean, when I say basic sounds like yeah, entry level that I should say that. Yeah, I shouldn't say basic because I mean, you put that technology in. In a car. It's there's nothing basic about it.

Hey, Jason. I found the video. I put it in a private chat. Oh, you did find it? Yeah, it's on YouTube. just fast forward, submitted. 34.

Okay, let me You're awesome. Hold on, let me then you even got me a timestamp. Well, we kind of got to watch the whole thing now. I mean, don't you think? Well,

I mean, it's up to you. It's I think it's wrong, but you know what part sports we've committed

to this stupid thing. And we really, we really have. I got to do it. Now. We got to pay off pay it off. We got to pay it off because you got to see my face.

Exactly. There we go. All right.

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That's a celebrity right there. I

know. Right? It paid off, it paid off. I feel like I need to reach out to them and have an interview with the CEO and so I could get some more airtime but right. What do you guys think of that? By the way? Since you're both on here? I know. Yes. For and I talked about that. Was that something you would do? I mean, she rents it out for 19 an hour? Is it even worth dealing with that?

Dude, first of all, I gotta say that that looked like the Manson ridge. Did. I'm not kidding. And when they said where it is, I know that Manson had the house too. But Manson had that ranch in the hills. I didn't know that that property. But I didn't know that. That's I think that's like, I think that's the Manson bro. Oh, man. That's a relative of what that Holy,

holy fine, Batman. He said, There's $2 million liability, but God knows what that covers. Right. And that's it. I

mean, is there a dog limit? I mean, like, what about the gnarly dog that comes in? Because these places that do like the doggy daycare, they're a lot different. They do an intake. They do all this. You put dogs outside? uniform?

Yeah. And that's what I brought up on the last show we talked about is like the what are the dog? You know, kennel cough? Yeah, you go into those doggy daycares. You have to be you know, have all the vaccinations and all that stuff. So I'd be worried. You know, this dog is sick in my backyard, he takes a dump. My dog goes out there, you know, whatever. He rolls in it or you know, I don't know. It wouldn't be worth it to me. I'd charge like $50 an hour if I was to do it. But

I had dogs my whole life. And we have a dog park from her house, three blocks walking. And when I got Bodie, like I'd had him three days. The fourth day I had him I took him down to that dog park. And it's about three acres fenced in. There's always a ton of dogs down there having fun, he was having fun. But that day, and I had been there before with my other dog that had passed away. But that day, as we were kind of like, I don't know, kind of winding it down. We've been there a while this little dog comes in in this this huge dog this. What is it a mastiff or whatever Yeah, comes over and just grabs the loss I was a loss off so grabs the loss up, so bites down and they have a lock jaw. And just it killed the loss opposite but over time, I mean, there was like three of us like I was holding the back of it. Another dude was punching it in the face as hard as Oh my gosh. And it ended up killing the dog. And like this is my dog's first experience, who's already here who had already been through a lot of traumatic stuff. Watching his new owner get like going, just hang tight. He's trying to get in and I'm like,

Steve bringing down the room with dog death. This season, buddy. So this next video is from John, and it's about the car. The gas price is still up. John, you had sent me a picture earlier this week. It's still at like what? 620 Yeah, we're

still over six bucks. Unfortunately.

We're right around four I did someone did report a 389 by us a little bit out in the outskirts of the city. But what about you, Steve?

Are you right where you were right where you are? Yeah, that's about exactly. Yeah, you can find it 399 You might find 389

Okay, well, this video is about what every damn news source does. when gas prices go up.

Gas prices are going up again. And you know what that means? hastily made story about it on your local five o'clock news. We'll start with the steel shot of the gas station sign obviously. Then someone opened up the gas tank and put the thing in next we're going to do a shot of the price ticker as they fill up with gas. After that, we'll probably just interview someone at the gas station and ask them very leading questions to get them to make the situation sound way more extreme than it actually is like this. I can't afford to go to the grocery Your store anymore I can't afford food anymore. Usually after work on a Friday, I'd go down to Chili's and get a cold beer, maybe a two for 20. But now with gas prices being the way they are, I can't even afford that. After that we'll show some more shots of the person we just interviewed getting gas and maybe showing them looking frustrated like this. Or maybe like this not yet convinced that the world is ending tomorrow. How about another doomsday soundbite? I mean, at this point, I'm honestly thinking about maybe you know, taking out a second mortgage on my house or sell a one of my kidneys or something but then we'll conclude by telling you to tune back in at 10pm to literally watch the exact same story again.

God when what are I mean, I don't I don't even actually have cable anymore. So I don't I don't remember the last time I even watched a news story like that. But when when is that going to stop when baby boomers pass on? Or what? What about you guys? You guys watch the regular news at all?

No, I don't. But my parents do religiously every night and drives me fucking crazy.

Yeah, I my my I don't know. I don't even talk to my parents and my mom's dead. I don't definitely don't talk to her.

Because I'm on YouTube enough to just see the stories I want to watch. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of high school and then you have to deal with all the commercials and wading through to see what I mean. You probably cables dead man. All you guys cables.

Well, the problem is everything else is you got door or DoorDash What an idiot. You got Netflix, you got Hulu, you got all this other apps, and they almost add up to a frickin cable subscription. So it's like something's gotta give. Yeah, anyways,

YouTube premium suppose I have I don't see any ads.

Yeah, you're a big YouTuber, John. Steve's a huge YouTuber. Do you have the premium as well? No, I've never really i I'll be honest it

this way I get to see who who's really monetizing the crap out of their channels. That's true.

Well, you don't really get a choice. What ads you put on there? I mean, no, but

John doesn't have to watch him. Yep,

that's true. I don't see any ads ever. Yeah, see?

And that's awesome. That's bullshit though, John, because the supporters that nothing against you. But I now that I think about it, the guys that are partners, they're not getting any money. YouTube's getting their what? $30 a month you pay isn't they get a flat rate.

I was gonna say they might get something. But the problem. The problem is, and I've talked about this with both you guys that if you give YouTube $1 or if I give Jason $10 Super Chat, Jason's gonna get two thirds of it in 60 days or whatever. I mean, it's yeah, it's sad, dude. I mean, like, so basically, I've given YouTube $10 to invest for two months, and then give didn't then they'll give Jason 66% of the original amount. I meant to give them that night two months ago.

Yeah, that is, you know, you know, it would be cool is a lot of charities. You can pay for the processing or whatever. You know what I mean? That'd be cool. If YouTube's like, Hey, you can pay for the creator, the extra whatever we're going to take if we're going to take 20 cents on the dollar. You can pay for that. But yeah, did you hear? Did you hear YouTube is going to get into podcasting? Huh? No, like, you're actually going to add your RSS feed just like the rest of them. Stay well, what if you have a channel already? That's true. That's what I want to know. Like, do I bring it to be able to just integrate your that would be great. And then is that monetized too? Because if you're partnered already, I mean, that would be great for me.

Yeah. That's I mean, I wouldn't want to go through any hooking up all my episodes, and yeah, kind of like mess like that. And like, where's it gonna go in my timeline? I don't want all of them appearing in front of all the stuff I've done. Yeah, it's

gonna be it's all relatively new. There was announcement but yeah, that it'll be interesting. I, as much as I don't like YouTube. It's just another avenue. I mean, it's the second biggest search engine in the world other than Google. So, I mean, it's good to have it on there. But hopefully, it's as easy as like, you know, adding it to Stitcher or Spotify or whatever from your, from your host. So I got this real quick. From Steve's website. Actually, I always go to Steve's site. And honestly, this site, all the sites have been slow on news, there has not just been a ton out there. But this is a real quick conversation about Ubers temporarily removing the ability to split fares, like that seems very stupid because all these college kids that get in, you know, they're always like, Oh, you used to be like Venmo me Venmo me or whatever, but now they can split the fare. Why are they doing this? They say they're gonna bring something out. That's a little bit better. But

what it is, is they if you split the fare, they've been having legal issues on who they have an issue with. If people there's you can, oh, anything happens. Even an accident whatever, like who is you have to they have to have one person responsible for the ride.

Yeah, that's interesting. I never thought about that. That is right now I

read this. You know, the article that you're reading off that off my site is the It's weird because I had to go dig even more because I always do to find out what really is behind this. Because they make it sound like Ubers. Yeah, like Ubers about to do something cool. Yes. But they're not there. I mean, they're not going to do anything cool. I don't consider this a bad thing, because I understand why it needs to happen. And I don't do that with anybody. Anyway, like, for me, if I go if I were to go out for a night with somebody like Jason view, and I went out, and I would just say, I got this way, and you got the other way.

or your kids or So Ray, let's

split it, dude. Yeah,

I'll just say since you're so rich, you can just pay for it all in Dallas. All the money you make. I'm gonna have my car.

Are you going to drive down there? Oh, yeah.

How long drive is it for you? hours, you might want to look it up. Yeah, you know, Texas is a really big state. Yeah. Larry says one throat to choke, which is interesting said from Larry, because that guy is so sweet. So it sounds like he'll choke you out. It does say that Lyft has a split or Lyft removed its own split pay in 2018. but has since created a half measure as of 2020. You can use Venmo as a payment and split the fare of a ride from the Venmo app. So that's not that at least they're offering something so yeah. All right, boy, I mean, we are 40 minutes in and I am like five articles in See I knew this would happen when you get a bunch of people

were having too much fun.

I know we always look what's the MC Mac MC MC in a minute. Yeah, I

haven't either. We kind of rallied around Mac about from a certain creator for a while and then he kind of went off off the grid for a little bit. Well, thanks for coming to the show. All right, you guys we have a new sponsor. I'm super excited about it. I've talked about this company for ever. I have been using their products forever. And Middleton Technologies has said we want to go with a gig economy podcast and Gary is great I've been on a bunch of shows with Gary I'm sure you've seen him around if you're in the in the gig community but Middleton technologies they have a bunch of apps they have flexibler Maximo and driver utility helper driver utility helper also known as Duff I talked to my wife I know sometimes I say like I talk gig worker my wife and somebody else that doesn't know and go yeah da and they're like what's done? I'm like, driver utility helper.

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No, he No, he was he was laughing to where you're like, oh,

it's always a delayed comment. And like there's no context with it. I was like, Oh, great. I fucked something up. So

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When everybody's on dah, dah. No, you know, even Gary told me this like everybody's on. That's why you wanted me kind of More pushing Maximo because you know, let's get because riders are rideshare is coming back and stuff.

Yeah. And that's that's the incredible part is with the rideshare and setting the distance limits. Oh, my gosh, it's so nice. The only problem is Uber, they're assholes. And after three declines, they sign you out. But he's got something in there where it copies and pastes that your password and everything. It's only like two clicks, and you can get back into the app. But that's not that's not Middleton Tech's fault. That's Uber being there whiny bitches about everything. So. Alright, moving on. Let's see.

So much of DoorDash pausing your dash for to clean too many orders.

Well, you gotta get quite a few of them now. Depends on

how many drivers are in the market. Sometimes when I know that there's a lot of drivers, it'll it'll put me on pause after like four declines really declines. Yeah, it varies.

I love the one part about DoorDash I do like as you can pause your dash or you can actually mult if you didn't use Gary's apps, which you should you can multi app with that and just pause it and that's another thing about Gary's app. You know, they turn all the other ones off so it just it's a safer way out to tap your phone so many times when you're driving because you know, it's pretty much illegal

unless distracted and in some places now it is illegal.

Yeah, I was gonna say it's pretty much illegal all the way around. So right but

in some places, like you can't touch your phone for anything anymore. If the cop sees like like Truckee, California we were talking about the other day there's other places do big cities. If they see you do and it's like a $500 ticket. Even if your phone is on a mount Yeah, it's on a mount if you put your healthy if they put your hand to it if you touch it, so they don't even care what you were doing anymore. If you're like doing anything they're gonna be like, Oh man,

well Michigan I have a D O T even though my my weights under 10,000 pounds. I still have to have a D O T I cannot legally touch my phone while I'm driving because I'm coming because when your D O T certain department of transportation certified I guess I don't know. But

and for Truckee, California to Tahoe City and then all the way around Lake Tahoe. You have to have it's a $500 ticket in if not only touching it if your phone is anywhere your arm can reach. Oh

geez. Well, how am I going to text and drive? I know you're gonna have to really so it's obvious that you're doing it. Anyways. All right, Gary had asked a question about dating and this is kind of what that in the title it says went on a date last week took her to Applebee's and everyone knew me. I explained her that I'm a top Dasher then showed her my smart car. She hasn't returned my texts. I don't understand. I'm a top Dasher. Of course there's 233 comments so just kind of a joke on you can get more dates if you're a top Dasher. I really want to have a conversation with somebody that is a top Dasher though honestly like I wish they I could say Do you think you actually make more money? What are your thoughts on that John? I know you're a big door Dasher. Are you a top Dasher? It did we just let a cat out of the bag.

It's always a top Dasher in my in my market. My car would probably have like 100,000 Miles right now. Because like at least a third of the orders are 10 to 15 miles and in peak rush hour traffic. Oh my god, I can't do that. But you know who was the top Dasher? nugs

is he? You know, I was gonna tell you as to Jason that you should have on the show is Ron entre courier

Oh, is he a top Dasher?

He's going for it. He's going he's doing he you know he is right now and he's doing it he's doing like I can't remember what it is whatever that number is. He's doing like 250 Top Dasher rides every one to see the difference. Okay, so he's doing an experiment I should ask him man he's a good be a good person have fun? Yeah, I you Ron's a great conversation

Yeah, we connected at a little bit back but I'm oh my gosh, you're connected so many. I can't even keep up with it. But Max says I used to shoot for top Dasher all the time. I don't know. Like, I just ethically I cannot make a delivery for $2 I just can't it just I wouldn't do anything for $2 I mean, I mean all right now all right now that's gross. You know what I mean? This isn't this isn't TNC radio. Yeah, I know. But you're laughing Yeah, so Max is if you'd in his old market if you didn't have top Dashers extremely difficult to get scheduled. I didn't even go on the schedule. I just wait till it gets red and turn it on. So I got my

it's a good night. Oh, really? Yeah, cuz it drops. guys grab it real quick. Interesting.

I mean, I find that to be honest, everything I've done with parent all the people on DoorDash that I've worked with, I find most of what I would call the top Dashers and this isn't just a pair of thing. This is just overall outside of it even all fall under 10% acceptance. Oh yeah. Yeah, I had all the best Dashers are under 10% However, now they have this whatever it is, John, you're probably familiar with this. Like if you pick up clothing or something like that they're offering those so if you decline that this blew my mind the other day, if you decline that your dash acceptance goes up if it's not food delivery so if like if it's a no it's they're trying to look make the appearance that all their Dashers don't have a 1% acceptance rate. Oh, interesting. So I want to there was I post limit your eight year which still high hits you that means you're in the top 10% Exactly.

My mall my stuff is on my work phone. But anyways, I want to real talking about some, some issues same some of the cherry picking yourselves to kind of trigger my brain on Facebook, I posted an audiogram and, you know, someone comment on it. And he's like, you know, we're talking about gas prices and what do you do to compensate for it? That was what the audio clip was about. But he says just work harder and longer to cover extra costs of gas, like, okay, and do not cherry pick jobs, do the right thing by your passengers. And I replied, I get working longer, but why not cherry pick? He says why? Because you should do. You should do the right thing for the traveling public. They are your source of income. And I says I'm not running a charity. I'm an independent contractor. I'm out there to make money for me and my family. Then he says so you'll take the cream and neglect. Wash it. It played another video. What? Sorry. I'm sorry, God. Dang Facebook.

Just when I was getting good.

No. Yeah, I was reading the comments. Hold on. Gosh, darn it. He

was trying to shut it real quick was Pornhub he's like,

Oh, no, it's gonna show. Oh, my God. Dang it. Let's see. Okay, so you will take the cream and neglect the rest and let your coworkers look after your discards. I'm like co workers. So it's just a weird like, it reminded me of him being a top Dasher. And and yeah, it's just weird. So I thought I'd engage them a little bit. You know, we don't get a ton of engagement on those audio grams. So I was like, I'll talk to but I'm like coworkers. And I like cherry pick. I'm like, This guy is like I literally I'm not running a charity. Why would I not cherry pick but that's just that's just me. What's a co worker? I know exactly. I have co workers that my w two I don't I don't eat them out and doing gig works. We're all friends. But we are kind of all competing. I mean, us three but if I was in your Martin

Yeah, but no, really like, you know, if all you guys lived in my market, I feel like we could get rid of everybody. Yeah.

will go to the airport. And we're all turned our apps off.

We're just thrilled like nails under their tires.

I mean, are they already doing that? By being top Dasher?

No, yeah.

I don't know. You know, I asked Ron. So that that was a question. You know, I said so far, how's it going? So it's not just kind of and he's like, 140 in and he said, he said, I'm making I said, are you making less or more? And just money not Let's not break down the expenses. And he was like, I'm making about exactly the same but my gas and my miles is twice. Oh, yeah. He's like, so I'm making way less.

Yeah, because you're probably taking the rides that are a lot further away because you're accepting. Gross. Okay, we're gonna get through some of these Uber has changed their green pricing. Basically, they got rid of the 50 cent green trip from the, from the driver or from the rider still get the gas surcharge, but I didn't know. Harry had posted that I didn't even know a lot about it. But But yeah, I don't have an Eevee I really want an Eevee but I don't have one. Do they produce? Yeah, no, I'm thinking about I'm not a Prius I need I need somewhat of an SUV if I do Amazon flex, although I do see people pull up to that warehouse in a frickin Prius and do Amazon.

They are blender hybrid,

but the they are but the we're doing rural stuff and a dirt road. And I mean, it's just it's gonna wreck the suspension and anything but I'm actually looking at our rav4 hybrid or a prime rav4 But they're hard to get right now. What do you have in your hand or you can

get this. This is for my beer. But this is a siphoning kit where you can just take other people's cast.

I'm like where's he going for this? Is that penis pump? Is it what are we doing here like

I actually have the new body wrap for 2019 Get the gas one. I love it. It rides great. I've been on some dirt roads and handles it fine.

Yeah, I like the new body style. It's bigger. My wife has a 16. And it's the still the smaller one or one. Yeah, but it's a little too small for me, but I definitely like the new body. So the Toyota The only thing I saw about the feedback, they get way better gas mileage than the HR or HRV a CRV. But they run a little loud. There's not a lot of soundproofing in there. That was the only complaint I can actually notice that my wife's car, it just you hear stuff a little bit more on the outside. Not that it's a big deal. I got air pods in anyway. So good.

Really, I've had to grab fours back to back.

Yeah, you haven't noticed it? Yeah, because you're not in another car.

Well, I also pull their music and stuff. Yeah, I

know. My car's got 250 on it. There's a ton of rattles in there. And then don't you know, John had sent this to me as well. This is a blocking driver. And oh, it's hard to see. I didn't crop it. But what do you guys thoughts on that? He's picking up at Red Robin. I mean, the chances of any one back I mean, he's gonna be in and out really quick. I do that all the time. I'm not gonna lie. You're not a fan of that, John.

Well, not only that, but the Red Robin in my market. It's super slow. So well, I could just find a plug in parking spot and walked in a restaurant. That's what I do.

Yeah, I mean, you got to know your where you're picking up. I don't think I would ever pick up there. But if I'm dropping off food, like at a customer like an apartment complex, you know what I mean? I'll block that in. But yeah, I agree. You know, and your battery

doesn't start all of a sudden. Right? You're Sol at that point? Yeah, for sure.

Look at this. Look at this payout. This is I saw this from going around 240 $200. This mofo made in 66 hours. So that six hours? Yeah, so that's a lot of hours. But that's not a lot hours for that much money. But if you look at the breakdown, his net fare was two grand promotions. 1800 And then other earning 24 and tip $401. But

it's all about the promotion. It's all about if you don't play the promotions. rideshare is dead.

But look at the numbers. If you take the promotions out, he made $2,000 He made almost basically $2,500 in 66 hours, that still isn't horrible.

He's no but the market he's in. That should be more for that many hours like Sergio. You know, Sergio, he lives right by us, John. Sergio works for the rideshare guy. He's like one of the top earners that there is. And he can make more than that. Without that promotion money. Dude, he'll make he'll make like $1,500 in 25 hours weekly, without promotion without promotion. How? I don't know. Because

I mean, he's a basic Uber X. He's got to be running black.

No, he's X. Come on. I'm not kidding you. That is He did those pay challenges. They're even up on the rideshare guys website, like where people were saying I can make more doing deliveries like really? And like they did like this three week challenge. And after the first week, all the three delivery drivers that were challenging him all bowed out, because they said we can't make that much in the whole three weeks. You just

have to share that link because I need to see his payouts I need I can't

do it here. You can't do it there. Yeah, just a possibility in LA if you've got if you know what he knows. What does he know? He just has been doing it long enough. And he really has it dialed like he'll he works. He knows exactly he won't work one second out of a surge.

Okay, okay. Yeah, I should watch that a little bit of be interesting. Okay, the slap heard around the world. This is This is Will Smith slapping Chris Rock and the picture is 225 on Chris Rock his face and then Will Smith saying declined. But I bring this up because I want to actually know your opinion. Do you think that was fake? Or real?

100% staged?

I think it was real.

Why do you think it stays John? Did you see it? Yeah, so

me too, I think weird. And then also, Chris Rock has a short guy. If you have someone like Will Smith wall power walking out you. You will take a step back. Are you like Hey, what are you doing? They'll be like some type of natural reaction. You're just like, like wait, he likes waiting for that? Yeah,

not at the Oscars though. Yeah, I mean, they're like he of course he's not expecting to as far as Chris Rock knew it. What you're right. Maybe he thought it was staged on him. Like this was gonna be something weird because he was even if you've looked at it from different angles, he got smacked dude, this wasn't Oh, no, he did. But I don't think it was staged either that anger and Chris Rock and some of the other people speaking out and the deal was that they made behind closed doors to already close this down? I mean,

yeah, but look at how well reacted, you can see the camera he laughs at the joke. He looks at his wife and then gets pissed. I mean,

I'll be because he was okay with it till he looked at Jada. Yeah. And then he it's just if you know their story is just, they're weird.

Well, yeah, I mean every every celebrity is weird but right

but he comes across as the one of the nicest guys in Hollywood usually. Yes, he is. But I mean, like that was very, very out of character for him.

Right. But I agree with John, even if you if you don't think yeah, like if it was staged. If it wasn't stage, he would have stepped back. I mean, I don't care who it is. He's coming up. He's taller than you. Like, you would have stepped back. I would have probably taken a frickin position. You know what I mean? You would move to at the very

least Yeah, yeah. Do they? Literally, I bet I've done production enough. I know that like I'm the only one of us three that does production. You're told, okay, timing. You're taught timing. You'll stand here. You don't move.

Yeah, but if someone's walking toward it might be staged.

I mean, you're not thinking I will if I was Chris Rock, I'm not gonna think he's gonna hit me.

But then he didn't even respond like, Dude, I wouldn't be like, what? I would have gotten right back Adams.

Like, dude, I think they take you through enough of that. I mean, why is why is the constant chatter. I mean, why would Will Smith wreck his career? It's doing some major damage right now.

I say the opposite. I think he's gonna get bigger because of this.

Exactly. You know what they say? There's no such thing as bad PR.

Yeah, that's your unless you're unless you're a guy who comes across as the nicest guy in Hollywood and you go up and smack somebody at the Encore or the Oscars for the first I don't think

that her I don't think I heard him.

I mean, honestly, that the Oscars needed that shit because that shit was terrible. The Oscars were

tanking. That's why I think it was staged. Yeah, we got people to talk about the Oscars a little bit more.

Yeah. Anyways. Okay, a couple more things real quick this giant as dirt as John would you take this? It's 190 items for $124 and only eight mile drive.

How long do you think they'll take the shop for

though at least two hours at least? So

I think I would take it just for the hell of it. Like just

for the story. Yeah, so Steve knows shipped I know Walmart they tell you where everything is DoorDash kind of tells you where they are but not as accurate as shipped in Walmart. I would I honestly that shop would probably take me three hours. Honestly, but what do you think Steve?

Um, you know I love low paying gigs I would probably take me four and oh yeah, I'm all over him you

know I'm just I mean especially I don't shop at Meijer if I did ship that's their main target and my other main gigs as you know target and

why don't you shop and Meijer that's one of the things I miss about Michigan. Well I

my wife does for our for our family, but I don't do shipped. I do Walmart

higher part of Kroger. By the way. One thing that we talked about last night too was if I don't know if you know this, Jason I didn't know this till last night that if you if you work shipped, and it doesn't matter how much so if you're still on the app and active you have a free ship membership. Yeah, I do. I didn't even know that dude. Like, I can get my stuff delivered for free. It's awesome.

But they do raise the prices on everything. The prices are elevated on the ship app.

So well, but not a target because that's there.

Maybe not a target. I know at least at Meijer in our area like if it's $1 for a loaf of bread it's $1.10 or on the ship app and it adds up you know if you're doing a bigger but I don't I don't know if Instacart does that I don't think so. I

don't know. That's awesome, dude. Yeah, I mean, cuz I don't really take advantage of those type services because I do that stuff. So just take care of myself. Yeah, you know even

Walmart ads the same thing they don't give it to you but if you earn if you do enough deliveries in the month they give you a free month of that service.

So do you guys just target drive up?

Target drive up? What do you mean? Yeah,

yeah, no, I do the chips. What do you do shopping on target up and then just go pick it up a day bring it out to your fees or anything? Yeah.

You just you phrased it wrong. I we call it curbside so Drive. Drive up. I don't know. Oh, interesting. Yeah, I don't know. Target might,

you know, there was an interesting article. I wish I could pull this up right now about like, because I was doing it during the pandemic too. I needed a couple of those HEPA filters is I was having that major Azmuth stuff going on and stuff. Right but um, so I had that brought up to the car. But there was an article about how sometimes accidentally returned products get taken to that section. Aisle rally. So they're like, Yeah, you drive up I want my HEPA filter. Somebody took it home, so it just doesn't work. Really well and that it's in that customer. Yeah, I they made it sound like an accident like it just when it happens. It's we don't know it was here, like, royally? Yeah,

there's so many scams out there for that shit. Real quick, this is kind of funny. The fact that people used to deliver pizzas before GPS is so absurd to me, people were really calling up a pizzeria. Like, I want a large pizza delivered in 30 minutes, I'm going to give you a house number and a random street name. Good fucking luck. So I bring that up is because and John may have never experienced this because he's a little baby over there. But Steve and I are older and I, I've been doing lawn care for 20 years. So I've always got laid off in the winter. And I always do some kind of work. Like I can't sit home and collect unemployment. And not that I haven't for a couple of weeks here and there. But we used to use map books, you know, like the old school or we'd have a giant map on the back of the door and be like, Okay, right here, left here. Go. And that's what we used to do. So it's totally doable. I mean, I'm sure Steve has has done that.

Dude, I still I to be honest, I love maps, I still have topographical maps of Colorado. I like using maps. Now,

I'm not gonna go that far. I'm just saying I mean,

I guess but here's, here's the thing I do. I do use it to get to places that are difficult to get to. And they have the elevation rings, things I need to know.

Right? Yeah, I mean, it's different for you. But I mean, I use GPS for everything now. But yeah, yeah, I definitely used to deliver for jets pizza. I used to just get my paper map and just do the

thing. Growing up and knowing phone numbers. Yeah,

I mean, it wasn't easier. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying it was easier to do it that way. But it is doable. I mean,

I used to be able to know 25 I don't know my mom's number anymore. I know my own home phone. She's like a normal speed dial number. Yeah,

I know my wife's. I don't even know my daughter's number. Like I don't

I don't know my son's number. Yeah. I don't know his number. Yeah,

everyone. He's in the next room. Max's Thomas guides were the best is that like, like,

Thomas is the was the wire bound are the ones you'd see at truckstops.

Oh, yeah, those are really high quality.

Yeah, those are the good ones. How

do people take road trips, like back in the day in the 80s? Like, you're driving to Florida, like, take 75 south and hope you get there like

gas station.

I remember. I remember taking road trips and like kinda, you know, you even if you had a map, you were still like, you know, you get to a spot and pick up a payphone. Again. Something that doesn't exist on paper. Yeah, you pick up a phone at a restaurant and be like, okay, and then it's the next exit. Now what I know he'd be like pen and paper, write it down.

You know, I'm rewatching Seinfeld and there was an episode where they're trying to go to this movie and they can't connect they keep missing each other. I'm like, cell phones yo like wires no one texting each other. I'm like, oh my god, that was a rough time back then. Without cell phones that sucked ass so read that last one and then we'll get a final word for me to you guys. This says instructions leave at my door. Don't knock. Cut this off. Don't knock my boyfriend thinks we're on a diet. I'm trying to eat like shit. Turn your head light off if possible. Yeah, I'm terrible. I wish we had a better outside light but we're at blank. Please try not to flash your headlight because I because I'll be found out and it will cause a fight and I want my damn case to do Thanks in advance. I mean, I don't know if that's even legit. But it's still funny as hell. What is the craziest instructions if you've ever seen him in John you're the biggest DoorDash or so I feel like you'd see the most I haven't seen anything too crazy just little like don't leave on the ground like that.

Yeah, I'm trying to think if I've had any crazy directions that come to mind right now.

Yeah, it's I put you on the spot so

no one the one thing I've had happen again I don't have John is our of delivery. He's the one the resident

talk Dasher. Yes.

But for what I have done, I have had people call me like, you know and say, oh, you know what? I'm uh, I'm actually my boyfriend's house. Can you bring it here instead? And I've already gone through the whole spiel and got the food I'm on my way to the hair on your way. And you know, damn well, they didn't forget they ordered it from their house. It took a little too long. They went to the boyfriend's house. And now they're like, just bring it here. Yeah. like it like that's just so easy like, oh, anything for you personally don't care about, right?

Oh my god. I have a story from the road I you just triggered me about the wrong address. This is alright, I'm gonna end with this. It's me being a customer. Okay, so yes, first mom passed away we got him a bunch of stuff or whatever and then I wanted to order him some booze. We like Knob Creek that's kind of what we liked the one that you sent, but it's damn expensive. So I mean it's, you know, at minimum 50 bucks a bottle. So, which was really damn good, so smooth. But we've I bought some night cream on DoorDash and I'm like, Okay, I'm going to do this, right. So you you can preorder everything you can schedule on like, this is me from a customer and so I scheduled it to Yes, verse house. Totally fine, right. So he's like, bah, bah, bah. He's like, Alright, I'm starting to shop for you finds it starts going. My camera goes off at my house. I'm at the cottage show. My mother in law has a cottage so she wants to go down downtown Grand Rapids. So I'm at the convention center. Like, that's weird. Look at the camera. It's the fucking DoorDash guy. I forgot to put your spurs address in the app. Right? Okay, so I text them, Hey, can you take it to this address? I'll pay you extra. What's your Venmo? You know what I mean? I'm going to take care of him. And he's like, Yeah, I can do it. But I'm worried about not being able to drop it off because of the GPS or whatever. Okay, cool. So I was like, I'll reach out to support reach out to support in fact, support was incredible on the customer and they're like, I'll take care of you. I changes like, usually when you're a Dasher, they're like, fuck you. I mean, it was incredible customer service. So within three minutes, I had this address change. Cool message the guy. Hey, the adjustors changes should be fine on the GPS. Okay. Now mind you. Yes. Burt doesn't leave the house. Okay. He works from home since the pandemic he doesn't leave his wife works from home they never leave driver gets there. Guess who's not fucking there? Yes. For Yes. For and his wife. Well, I call Yes, spur. Yes, but where are you? While we're buying clothes for the kids for the funeral? Shit. You never leave the house? She didn't. He's like what's going on? I was like, I bought you a bottle of booze. Okay, fine. So I say, what are we going to do? He's like, Alright, my neighbor's home. I text the guy. Hey, can you wait this like five more minutes? I'll pay you more here in the I know, this is

it's are you paying them along the way? At least?

Why pay them? Well, first, I wasn't gonna pay him the 15 until he got to yesterday's house and delivery. Because what if I paid him the Venmo? And he's like, oh, you know, when he takes the boot or whatever? I didn't think he was like, so I've already paid him the 15. Okay. Yes. There's like, oh, I call they're not home. And he's like, What do you want me to do? And I was like, okay. Just wait, are you comfortable dropping the booze off? He's like, Well, I need to see the license. I'm like, Well, you can say it doesn't scan, you can enter it manually. I can get that information for you. I am not going to ask you to do it. I told them. I was a gig worker. At this point. I'm like, I'm, I'm a gig worker. And I plugged the podcast. So anyway. I mean, come on, why not? Like so? And he's like, No, I'm not. I'm not going to do that. I you know, I'm not comfortable. I'm like, totally cool. I was like, I don't want you to break the rules. I was like, if you're not comfortable with that, I'm totally cool. Because I know I've delivered booths. And if the scanner doesn't work, you just enter the information and you can override it. Is that correct? John?

Yeah, I believe so. I've actually gotten called over what didn't ask an ID at all.

Oh, Jesus, Jenny. Well, I had one to ask for ID for Nyquil. Because there's actually alcohol on it, but a little bit. So anyways, I was like, Alright, are you can bring it back to the store. I'm totally fine with that. And I was like, Yes. Where is actually I said, Where are you heading back to Granville, because that's where I live in Greenville. And he's like, Yeah, I'm heading back to Greenville. I'm like, do you want to meet? Yes, we're at JC Penney. He's at JC Penney. This mo fucker. Drove the JC Penney met him there. Apparently the GPS was an issue and was able to deliver the booze.

Wow, how long was the whole process?

It was probably an hour. So I paid him another 15 So he got 30 cash for me with no fees plus whatever he made. He felt cool about it. Yeah. And he's like, You're so generous. You don't have to pay that much. I'm like, bro, once I committed to you driving to another address, We're BFFs like I'm going to take care of you so hopefully he got a good story out of that. I don't know maybe he'll listen to

no man it's good because you know he's got a good team you know who knows that that guy didn't have to other people in his good career pull that kind of crap that we're all sick of you know

Yeah. If Gary Ceylon here and you to John fuck you. I tip look at that amazing. delivered.

Gary. Gary. Yes,

yeah. I tipped what I thought about that. I thought about that conversation when that was going on. I was like, if I if I can only tell this story if I paid him tons of money and Mark did say most expensive alcohol yet ever. Yes. With the Venmo and the DoorDash. It was a $95 bottle of booze and it's 35 in the store. So if that,

so you should have just gone and bought it for him and wrapped it and taken it to him.

Well, I wanted to be like, Hey, let's use the services, you know, and it was gonna be you know, it was I don't know, I Tip two on the app. So you know, so I mean, he made out dollars. I tip $10 Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's it. $2 No, no, no, I tip $10 So he got he basically got $40 tip for me to do that for the hour plus whatever. DoorDash gave him

I went home after that.

I don't know. Yeah, he seemed very pleased with that. And that's what you got to do. You gotta if you're going to ask someone to jump. I mean, I would have been fine if you would have said no, I'm taken aback. I would have been I get a dude, I fucked up. I put the wrong address in so anyways, any closing thoughts? Steve, what do you got coming up this week?

I got the roundtable with UDM tomorrow night Gary's Gary's not in town. So it's going to be Ron taking his place. Hannibal? me a nice medium

UDM I've never seen any of his stuff. So and then.

Oh, and then Friday got a radio show with a guy named Jason. Yeah,

yes. Burrs gone again. Obviously in Denmark. I'm not going to force him to come on. TNC radio I'm going to fill in again. Yeah, check it out. TNC Radio

dot line and fill in for yourself.

No, it's my it's his week. It's his son of a bitch. Dang it always always recording but anyways, John, what do you got cooking? I don't you need to start a show. You need to do something. I need something to promote. Well, other than your book. Check out this book the five foundations for contentment.

Of course. Your Copy, Steve. There you go. We all got it. Yep. Mine's all busted up. But

yeah. Signed. If you can see that.

You know, your sign to Steve.

Yeah, check John's book out. He he has got a lot more hair than in this.

And the book is the book you guys. For those of you who've gone I don't buy books. This is a quick easy read. And it's got some great information. And in fact, after John after you and I talked about we did our thing then there was a perfect I had right after I read the book. There was a perfect one I was going to use on Bud's soda. Because it actually was talking about how how what we tell him that working too much will kill you. It's gonna kill you.

You guys really got after him on that show? Because dude, he

it's not a joke. The guy works about 100 hours a week. He's shooting for $100,000 this year, but he works seven days a week. It's not worth it. He's killing himself. He lives on monsters.

He's gonna have bad gut issues. Oh,

he's dude, his health is out. He's not doing anything exercise on the side. He's working 50 and 20 hour days.

That's insane. I mean, if he's doing a challenge, and it's gonna be like,

it's not though this is what he just is, like, you know, you know, he's in his mid late 30s. And he's like, I'm gonna go do this. And this is just what I'm gonna do until I have enough. I'm like, that's crazy. You know?

If John is you have you can get this on Amazon.

It's on Amazon. And also, I'm going to try to make more videos about it on my YouTube channel.

Okay, what's your YouTube channel?

It's my name John McCallion just how just how's it spelled here?

Nice check out John's stuff I'll John sent me that stuff and an email on that link so I don't forget to post it for the show. Yeah, cuz

like after John was on mine. We got him some new subscribers and then he put a video up. Oh, a while so

I'll definitely have to go. I'm not subscribed. I didn't know he had a YouTube channel John. John's just laid back dude. He doesn't push it on people like not like Steve where he just fucking text 17 times a day. Every time I go to tick tock, it's Steve on the tick tock. love you buddy. Alright guys, you guys stay on line. I'm gonna end the broadcast. Have a good night.

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Hey guys, thank you so much for listening to the gig economy podcast today we had two guests Oh Steve Johnson from rideshare rodeo and John McCain alien. And yes stepping in for Yes sir. Yes, Bruce mom passed away. And so we need some subs because Mr. Gaspar was in Denmark so we can't thank John and Steve enough for stepping in. Studio sponsor is Irvine's auto repair Grand Rapids hybrid and EV call them at 532 6600 If you're in the Grand Rapids, or West Michigan area, or you can schedule service, Irvine stock comm they are incredible. They are amazing. And I love them so much for supporting us. They've been the longest running sponsor that we have had on the show and we can't thank them enough for doing that. Also a new sponsor Middleton technologies. Middleton Tech has the apps Maximo driver utility helper Amazon flex, those three apps can help you save money, help you stay safe on the road, the link is in the description, you will make more money I guarantee you on that. Basically these apps declined for you except for you. There's tons of parameters you can set up for Uber Lyft. Uber Eats DoorDash GrubHub Amazon flex, it's just incredible. Middleton technologies you can search them on the web or we would love you to click the link in the description. Alright guys enjoy the show. Hi, guys, welcome to the gig economy podcast. Thank you so much for joining us. This studio is sponsored by Irvine's auto repair Grand Rapids hybrid, and we cannot thank them enough. We'll talk about them a little bit later. Apparently, Gary's in two separate chats. Welcome to the show. Steve from rideshare. Rodeo. And John. Oh god, I forgot to ask John. This is how I pronounce your last name John. Kelly and Mikayla and it's so wonderful when Steve said it it sounds so. American Alien close. Yeah. Is that right?

Well, there are media pronounciation is mkhaya Leon Mike like Michael Mikheyev how you taught me? Okay. Yeah, me kya Leon but yeah McHale he's so works

all right. Well,

I appreciate you guys just to let you know we're not gonna get have a super sad moment. But yes, he's not here tonight. His mother passed away. And she lives in Denmark. Well, yes. First from Denmark and all his family is in Denmark. So he is actually overseas right now. I think it's like three in the morning there four in the morning there. I don't know. He just messaged me too, because I asked him if he was there yet. I'm like, What are you doing up this late? But anyways, so these guys are stepping in which we wanted John on a while ago. And Steve Well, you know, it's kind of a pity invite Steve but this kitten buddy. If you could share the show and all your groups, Facebook, Twitter, retweet it like it, do all the stuff that's free that we'd really appreciate it. Everything gig economy related for this show is gig economy show.com Check out our tic tac we also have a Facebook group. And just want to mention our Patreon members real quick Keith from Indiana Larry from Bowling Green Samsung from Grand Rapids. Steve from Colorado. Chris from Grand Rapids James from Fort Collins, but Dickman from North Carolina and Mr. Tom Kelley from Houston, Texas. Thank you so much. I appreciate that telegram group you can join that all these links or anything I talked about are in the description and then of course rideshare rodeo I talked about this mofo every single show well, twice a month at least check his show out I mean, he this bro podcasts and interviews like crazy like every time I like go to YouTube just to like do some work on some videos is like Steve is live Steve his life. Just like my gosh, when you eat sleep and poop and parent and parents and love your beautiful fiance like she might be like,

Oh my God, everything Do you must die? No, it's crazy. And

she's but yeah, check out Steve go to rent writer radio.com or Uber? Lyft drivers.com or anywhere you download podcasts. All right, so I have no stories from the road. I am back to work, even though it was a little bit of a rainy day today. But John, my boy from it's la right. You're straight up in Los Angeles. Yeah, Los Angeles County to be exact. Okay. Well, tell me your story from the road. I hope it's better than my stories, which is nothing.

Well, this is one of the strangest deliveries I've ever done. I was in a DoorDash delivery. I want to say Sunday, Sunday night, had a pretty good payout. I get there and it was handed to me order every time I see a hand to me order. I always message the customer while I'm at the restaurant like Hey, I noticed that you pretended to me Do you want me to head to you or leave that door? Most people are like, no no, please leave that door open. So anyway, I met this guy and no response I get there. I ring doorbell takes them to Mr comes out. And this guy has his right hand in his pants. Like, I hope this isn't what I'm thinking it is. Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah, like deep down in his pants. I'm like, Okay, I'm like, Hey, did you want me just, you know, leave it right here, which is what I wanted to do and say anything's like, no, no, I prefer to hand it like handed it to me. I don't want it on the ground. Okay, and so I handed up one of those two bags, I handed one of the bags, and he's like, he's like, Hold on. I'll be right back. I gotta put this down. So he goes back inside his hand is still his pants. He puts the bag and it comes out like 45 seconds later grabs the other one. He says thanks. And that was it. But like this whole time, his hand was like, isn't it pants? Like it was just strange

was

the Hey, I was picturing something different, I hope what were you thinking like it was even worse. I was like, is his hands in his pants that he wants you to hand it off to like he's putting it through a zipper. Oh.

Sweet Jesus. That's actually a very good description. If you are the office fan, it made me think about when Michael stuck his hand through his crotch through the zipper. And he did he like, do a middle finger or maybe not. It was something

that was so it was something about the flasher. Yeah. Pleasure.

Yes. Incredible. So was the guy moving his hand or is just like holding his junk?

Nobody's holding it. Maybe he's walking with him too. He's like walking like a penguin like

I bet he had like a swollen nut.

Like he probably was hardest rock. I don't know.

I didn't mean like that. I mean, like he maybe had a hernia or something.

Then he should go to the hospital. Yeah, but if that's the case,

yes. Because the Waddle makes me think that he there had a hernia or he had a big load in his pants or something. I don't know.

My God the way it wasn't a very pleasing to look at.

That's interesting, John, that you actually text the customer when you see hand it to me do you do that? Just so there's no confusion?

Yeah, cuz sometimes I'll ring doorbell and then they'll open door be like, like I was expecting to leave that door. They don't even realize that that because like a lot of times they'll do or third party to the restaurant. Yeah. Default their default is handed to me. It's not like that door that when the food comes. They're not expecting to hand it to me.

Do you have Pinero This is stupid. Of course. You probably have Panera buy you Panera Bread? Yeah. They're specific that you have to like call the customer when you're on your way through DoorDash. And then you have to make contact. I'm like, screw that. I'm dropping to

know that shit. I just leave that door and bounce.

Yeah, thank goodness. So Steve, you got any stories from the road at all?

I got an old one that I was reminded of that I'll bring up because it really bothered me. I was talking to rideshare Lisa. And we're we're just we're talking about something about New York cabs. And somehow this came up. And it was an old it was an older obviously it's an older rideshare story. But it was a time I went to a bar and a guy came out in a suit he had ordered the the car right, so pull up. And first of all, you guys need to know I'm a big like, if I give to one charity and I do every year, but if I just give two if I can only give to one and do one thing. It's always the Denver rescue mission. Okay, that's, that's my that's my thing. Even when I ran the bars. We did We did. We did things fundraisers to help them and things to help them we've I've worked with them personally on a business level everything. But this guy calls and he comes out of the bar in a suit. And he kind of leans towards my car weird. Like he's not going for the handle. And so I rolled down the window and like, what's up? And he's like, he's like, Yeah, I called the car. And then we verified the name. And he's like, he's like, I want you to take that guy to the Denver rescue mission. And there was a guy like in I mean, just torn clothes. He had pissed himself. He's sitting on a tarp. I mean, like the works he had like a shopping cart full of crap. And the guy's like, I'll tip you 10 bucks. And I remember feeling just awful because I just shoot this whole thing down where it's one of those situations I should have just drove away from Yeah, and canceled it and said dude, Fu and don't do that to another driver. Right? But it was at a time in my in my earlier days with Rideshare when I was you know, I was like you know still trying to play it off and even the homeless guy was you won't take me cuz I stank and like the whole scene just I just, you know, I've been having all these good memories about rideshare lately, and I have no doubt that one came up with Lisa the other day and it was just really like brought me a negative feeling. I don't know. Yeah.

Why was this guy in a business suit trying to get he was he was

feeling like he was Big Man Bye. Oh, I'm gonna get you to the mission. Oh, yeah, get you knew by doing the right thing you know, like so what I'm gonna you know like so what I'm going to make $6 to absolutely trash my car and and you know what you're going to tip me 10 bucks after this ride my nights over and have to go my car details

yeah what a conflict of interest for you right? Because you're like yeah you want to do the right thing you support the mission but like I honestly I would have drove away to like

it just made me it's it's that though it's that I support the mission and that this and that where it wasn't like he was even going to one of the other two places he was going to the one that I do support. Okay, and I wanted to get a little aggravated at the homeless guy too and be like, listen, dude, it's 15 blocks and you got to cart right walk?

Yeah, you've been walking for a long time. But if the guy was offering a ride like, you know, right, but

that was my point. How dare you? How dare you do that? Put them in your car? Yeah, exactly.

You give them a ride.

No one's got some Marissa said she made a good point. Why? Why didn't he put him in his own car?

Yeah, he's trying to

he was he was drinking at the bar. The guy probably asked him for $1 or two. He was like, I'll do you one better. Where do you need to go? Because he came out of the bar. And that's what I was saying. It wasn't he wasn't coming out to get in my car. And you know, you know that feeling when somebody's like got a story. They're coming up. There was a weird angle.

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Kate Wow. KTLA Channel Five.

That's me. So, this guy reached out to me he wants to talk to me about we actually talked about in the last show the dogs, the renting the sniff, whatever. It's sniff dogs sniff sniff space. I don't frickin know. They'll probably talk about in here. But I just realized I don't think I pulled that frickin video like a dumbass. Why does this happen? Like every show? I'm serious. Hang on one second. I'm a dumbass. Before we jump into that, let's I want Steve to to talk about this a little bit. Because, you know, what I talked about with Steve Show is the smartness. This is a sometimes a dick and balls show. And which I love. But sometimes I like to get down and dirty. And I want to talk a little bit about Steve to talk about love about the Uber partners or the yellow taxi companies in New York City. Do you have any knowledge on that? I know we touched on it a little bit on your show back with Gary and John. Right. Or was that on the radio show?

No, that was the YouTube show.

I think it was no, actually yeah, member because you and I even brought up that was weird. He didn't even bring it up on the radio. Yeah, that's

right. That's right.

Because I was trying to avoid it that night anyway, because we had just talked about it the night before. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, so yeah. I mean, what what to start, and we've known that. We've known that Uber wants Yellow Cab for a long time. We know that when Uber came around and started populating New York City, that yellow cab never even attempted to make a universal app. That was the downfall. That was the problem. Right? You know, you couldn't go from and not just New York, you couldn't go from any big city to any big city land turn on yellow cab, and it worked in that city, you would have to download Phoenix Yellow Cab, Minneapolis, Yellow Cab, Chicago, Yellow Cab, so you'd have to go figure out which cab company you're going to use in that city. Download the app, create an account for a visit who's going to do that? You just open it Uber. Yeah. So the universal app killed in New York did end up getting an app for the cabs, but it was too late in the game. And even with the app if it had launched at the right time I universal it might have helped overall but for New York City. Those medallions people are the ones who are able to hail so I mean, they pay a lot of money for that. And so they just were left behind in the game. And nobody really ever took care of them. So now they're being on the app. It's it's I think it starts in like 10 days. So they'll you'll be able to get, you'll be able to get your cab through the app so it'll have prices, the cab drivers will see everything up front. Uber drivers will not the cab drivers will see here's here's the offer. Here's how far you're going. Here's the address you're going to here's the pickup they're going to see full transparency and they're also going to still be able to hail ride so if you're familiar with the New York City's the only place in the United States you can hail a cab if you're familiar with what hailing is. Yeah, just

Yeah. You don't have to call dispatch or anything like that.

Right. I mean, like in most cities, you could be at a hotel and the and the guy parking cars and you know all that valet can take care of you with cabs, they got a cab line. But like you can't hail a cab on a street any really anywhere. So that's kind of a last thing. But in Manhattan, you have to be a yellow cab, and you have to be have a medallion still, even though these medallions are worthless, you still have to have one interesting to be able to hail a cab. And if you're like a green cab, or the other company, they're in the boroughs. You can only service the boroughs you can't and you can drop off in Manhattan, but you can't pick back up hold. That's what these medallions did was they created like it was supposed to create, like a lifetime. Like it for me if I lived there a good blue collar living you know, it was what a medallion was supposed to do for your lifetime. And then be able to pass it down to your son or sell it or rent it or whatever when you retired. But it wasn't even like when you retire it it was over. It still was supposed to have a value. Now they have no value. rideshare is down and cab rides are down. Right. A lot of the articles on this read that people are there's not enough drivers. That's just straight up wrong. Yeah, that

that that when they did say that? I thought that's strange. There's

I mean, that's just straight up wrong. There's too many. There's too many Uber drivers. And there's too many taxis. Right right now. So even an even New York City though, that's crazy. So what they're doing No, yeah, they're gonna the cabs can still go about their day and do what they want to do how they always have. But they also can turn on the Uber app and take Uber rides. My thought on this is that it's a logistical play for Uber. Yes, they'll either either Yellow Cab will be out of business and just begging them to buy them for like pennies on the dollar. After six months, or else they'll say, You know what, we don't like this arrangement. And Uber Oh, great. We're pulling out and they'll say we've got six months of logistics of where every one of your cabs travels,

right? It's kind of a win win for Uber.

Yeah, it's like, you know, I mean, for 10 years, they've been saying, We're gonna kill all you yellow taxis, right? Especially in New York. We're gonna just crush you. And now it's like, these people are really supposed to believe. Hey, look, Uber is going to take care of us. Yes,

they're like real? No, man. Yeah, so when they take an Uber, when they throw in the if they're going to take Uber rides, they're getting paid the same as like, you know, the guy that doesn't have that?

I don't know. I just know that they're gonna see it all up front. Like everything we want. They're gonna get us be us. Why do you think that? The I think I mean, clearly, it's just that they're gonna be there bite because once they realize how well it doesn't pay? Well,

well, I guess why I know why Uber did it. But why did the Yellow Cab say yeah, we want to do this?

Because I think because. I don't know. Rice. Yeah. I mean, there's there's other people. I mean, Noah, I don't know if you know, Noah from New York City. He drives a lot at night. He used to be a cab driver. Now he's a rideshare driver has a YouTube channel. Okay. Um, he says a lot of cabs are just parked right now. Okay, so they wanted to make any money. They're not even sometimes parked with a driver. They're just parked, which is an unheard of thing. You just see him parked? Yeah. I mean, they need they need a bigger database to feed them.

Right. Couple of things. I don't I remember what this comment is about from the radio show. But I don't know how it applies to this show. So that's funny, Gary, it doesn't. Okay, that's just random. I guess.

It might have been from my story.

Oh, yeah. And his pants. Yeah, that's true. I just want to say Hi, Tom. Thanks for chiming in. Matthew says Uber taking care of drivers that's like the lion saying the Lions have talent. Now. Let me Sir, our super our quarterback just won a Super Bowl. So low blow. So going back to my article, they pulled the video off the site because I took the link from the reporter and there was a video on there and they pulled it it's just written but anyways, I I basically had 10 Maybe four seconds and it's and I got to say, I know these apps say they all have This insurance but I definitely I would definitely look into your homeowner insurance before you do that. So Jason theory host of the gig economy podcast. That's all I had on air two, but he interviewed me for like 10 minutes. It was a really good conversation. I was so bummed they cut. I mean, I figured they cut some of it out, but they cut 98% of it out.

So what was it that made them find you?

I don't know. They probably just googled gig economy or whatever.

It was. I mean, like, but it was it was the news, not the company.

Right? It was the news. Yeah, it was the reporter for the tech reporter for KTLA. I'm sure he just googled rideshare something I don't know. But, I mean, if you if you search gig economy, and then

No, no, no, I would assume they'd want somebody who, who knows who has used this or knows.

I told him, I never heard of it. So I'm gonna go I don't know. I think what it was is he reached out probably to a bunch of people. It was in the morning for me, he he emailed he's la time. So it's like, you had a deadline, and I got back to him right away and within like a half hour or so I'm sure that's probably what it was. But anyways, I

mean, if you would use the app or knew of it, then it would make sense. I was just like, why? Yeah.

And again, so I at least I can know that I did forget to pull the video, but the video was not there. Because the only link I have even the one that John shared is the same one I had. But anyway, I'll

just remote read the sounded weird. Did you learn anything about it? The app? Yeah, yeah,

I did. I guess my biggest concern, he kept asking about the concerns of the app. And I'm always focused on insurance, like, how is someone going to get sued in this? You know, and I actually interviewed a guy tonight from a company that is actually providing backend insurance for Uber. They want to be the what was it? Is it Tom river insurance that Uber had for a while in that time River? What was it called their river? But anyways, so I'm always talking to insurance companies and, and then that's what I focused on in the interview that they cut 95% of it out, so fuck them. Alright, moving on. First, this is a little picture. It's an article from the Facebook group. He says I drive a Tesla Model three Boomer or not Boomer bragging camp for Uber and had a lady freak the fuck out after she couldn't open my door. I told her like six eight times a hole down on the button, push the door out, she could not figure it out. So after struggling to open the door, she rolled the window down and tried to reach for the door handle from the outside. The door handles are flush with the car. So she panicked and started yelling for help. I think she thought I was trapping her in the car or something. I had to get the door open for Yeah, I mean, there is something fancy about the the handles right? You have to like you said this hold on to it, and then they pop out or something like that.

The problem is, is they look like you're supposed to push them all the way in? Yes. You know, yeah, really. You're just touching them. And by touching and going up it is. It's not a skill, but it's something you need to go through once to understand. It's like you got to push it and push it up. Oh, you Oh, shit.

Oh, gotcha. Yeah, it's not

No, like we'd be going.

Yeah, no, that's true. But I kind of feel bad for the lady. She was freaking out. Like the guy was like locking her in there. But I don't know one of our longtime fans Leo actually just ordered a Tesla. He's gonna get it in August. So he didn't get it. I don't know what he got. I think it's whatever the basic Tesla's model three. Is it model three? Yeah, whatever. A basic Well, I mean, when I say basic sounds like yeah, entry level that I should say that. Yeah, I shouldn't say basic because I mean, you put that technology in. In a car. It's there's nothing basic about it.

Hey, Jason. I found the video. I put it in a private chat. Oh, you did find it? Yeah, it's on YouTube. just fast forward, submitted. 34.

Okay, let me You're awesome. Hold on, let me then you even got me a timestamp. Well, we kind of got to watch the whole thing now. I mean, don't you think? Well,

I mean, it's up to you. It's I think it's wrong, but you know what part sports we've committed

to this stupid thing. And we really, we really have. I got to do it. Now. We got to pay off pay it off. We got to pay it off because you got to see my face.

Exactly. There we go. All right.

for just about everything these days, your garage, your swimming pool, and now your backyard. It's going to the dogs. Get this 10 acre mountaintop Ranch is a great place to bring the dogs. Very popular spots is the chaise lounge is out here on the point but you won't find it on a public map unless you bring somebody with you If it's going to be you only on our property during that time, it's listed on stiff spot a website that sort of like an Airbnb but for backyards where dogs can play. This is a map of our sniff spot homeowner Jen guitarras, charges $19 an hour for access to our sprawling yard.

I think on the best month I made about $400. And it's growing quickly, we're growing at 10 or 15%. Every month, David Adams is founder of sniff spot. So we're seeing a tremendous amount of interest, both from people that have land, and from people that have dogs and are looking for safe spaces for those dogs.

He came up with the idea while his wife was traveling and needed a place to take their dog to play and go to the bathroom.

There are all kinds of things that are drawbacks to dog parks being free and open. despite them being an important service and sniff spots really a solution to all that the idea of spot is safety.

The website takes a commission on each booking in exchange, they provide marketing and insurance

we actually provide first of its kind liability insurance for our hosts that gives $2 million of liability coverage.

I know these apps say they have all the insurance but I would I would definitely look into your homeowners insurance before you do that

guests revealed. Okay.

That's a celebrity right there. I

know. Right? It paid off, it paid off. I feel like I need to reach out to them and have an interview with the CEO and so I could get some more airtime but right. What do you guys think of that? By the way? Since you're both on here? I know. Yes. For and I talked about that. Was that something you would do? I mean, she rents it out for 19 an hour? Is it even worth dealing with that?

Dude, first of all, I gotta say that that looked like the Manson ridge. Did. I'm not kidding. And when they said where it is, I know that Manson had the house too. But Manson had that ranch in the hills. I didn't know that that property. But I didn't know that. That's I think that's like, I think that's the Manson bro. Oh, man. That's a relative of what that Holy,

holy fine, Batman. He said, There's $2 million liability, but God knows what that covers. Right. And that's it. I

mean, is there a dog limit? I mean, like, what about the gnarly dog that comes in? Because these places that do like the doggy daycare, they're a lot different. They do an intake. They do all this. You put dogs outside? uniform?

Yeah. And that's what I brought up on the last show we talked about is like the what are the dog? You know, kennel cough? Yeah, you go into those doggy daycares. You have to be you know, have all the vaccinations and all that stuff. So I'd be worried. You know, this dog is sick in my backyard, he takes a dump. My dog goes out there, you know, whatever. He rolls in it or you know, I don't know. It wouldn't be worth it to me. I'd charge like $50 an hour if I was to do it. But

I had dogs my whole life. And we have a dog park from her house, three blocks walking. And when I got Bodie, like I'd had him three days. The fourth day I had him I took him down to that dog park. And it's about three acres fenced in. There's always a ton of dogs down there having fun, he was having fun. But that day, and I had been there before with my other dog that had passed away. But that day, as we were kind of like, I don't know, kind of winding it down. We've been there a while this little dog comes in in this this huge dog this. What is it a mastiff or whatever Yeah, comes over and just grabs the loss I was a loss off so grabs the loss up, so bites down and they have a lock jaw. And just it killed the loss opposite but over time, I mean, there was like three of us like I was holding the back of it. Another dude was punching it in the face as hard as Oh my gosh. And it ended up killing the dog. And like this is my dog's first experience, who's already here who had already been through a lot of traumatic stuff. Watching his new owner get like going, just hang tight. He's trying to get in and I'm like,

Steve bringing down the room with dog death. This season, buddy. So this next video is from John, and it's about the car. The gas price is still up. John, you had sent me a picture earlier this week. It's still at like what? 620 Yeah, we're

still over six bucks. Unfortunately.

We're right around four I did someone did report a 389 by us a little bit out in the outskirts of the city. But what about you, Steve?

Are you right where you were right where you are? Yeah, that's about exactly. Yeah, you can find it 399 You might find 389

Okay, well, this video is about what every damn news source does. when gas prices go up.

Gas prices are going up again. And you know what that means? hastily made story about it on your local five o'clock news. We'll start with the steel shot of the gas station sign obviously. Then someone opened up the gas tank and put the thing in next we're going to do a shot of the price ticker as they fill up with gas. After that, we'll probably just interview someone at the gas station and ask them very leading questions to get them to make the situation sound way more extreme than it actually is like this. I can't afford to go to the grocery Your store anymore I can't afford food anymore. Usually after work on a Friday, I'd go down to Chili's and get a cold beer, maybe a two for 20. But now with gas prices being the way they are, I can't even afford that. After that we'll show some more shots of the person we just interviewed getting gas and maybe showing them looking frustrated like this. Or maybe like this not yet convinced that the world is ending tomorrow. How about another doomsday soundbite? I mean, at this point, I'm honestly thinking about maybe you know, taking out a second mortgage on my house or sell a one of my kidneys or something but then we'll conclude by telling you to tune back in at 10pm to literally watch the exact same story again.

God when what are I mean, I don't I don't even actually have cable anymore. So I don't I don't remember the last time I even watched a news story like that. But when when is that going to stop when baby boomers pass on? Or what? What about you guys? You guys watch the regular news at all?

No, I don't. But my parents do religiously every night and drives me fucking crazy.

Yeah, I my my I don't know. I don't even talk to my parents and my mom's dead. I don't definitely don't talk to her.

Because I'm on YouTube enough to just see the stories I want to watch. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of high school and then you have to deal with all the commercials and wading through to see what I mean. You probably cables dead man. All you guys cables.

Well, the problem is everything else is you got door or DoorDash What an idiot. You got Netflix, you got Hulu, you got all this other apps, and they almost add up to a frickin cable subscription. So it's like something's gotta give. Yeah, anyways,

YouTube premium suppose I have I don't see any ads.

Yeah, you're a big YouTuber, John. Steve's a huge YouTuber. Do you have the premium as well? No, I've never really i I'll be honest it

this way I get to see who who's really monetizing the crap out of their channels. That's true.

Well, you don't really get a choice. What ads you put on there? I mean, no, but

John doesn't have to watch him. Yep,

that's true. I don't see any ads ever. Yeah, see?

And that's awesome. That's bullshit though, John, because the supporters that nothing against you. But I now that I think about it, the guys that are partners, they're not getting any money. YouTube's getting their what? $30 a month you pay isn't they get a flat rate.

I was gonna say they might get something. But the problem. The problem is, and I've talked about this with both you guys that if you give YouTube $1 or if I give Jason $10 Super Chat, Jason's gonna get two thirds of it in 60 days or whatever. I mean, it's yeah, it's sad, dude. I mean, like, so basically, I've given YouTube $10 to invest for two months, and then give didn't then they'll give Jason 66% of the original amount. I meant to give them that night two months ago.

Yeah, that is, you know, you know, it would be cool is a lot of charities. You can pay for the processing or whatever. You know what I mean? That'd be cool. If YouTube's like, Hey, you can pay for the creator, the extra whatever we're going to take if we're going to take 20 cents on the dollar. You can pay for that. But yeah, did you hear? Did you hear YouTube is going to get into podcasting? Huh? No, like, you're actually going to add your RSS feed just like the rest of them. Stay well, what if you have a channel already? That's true. That's what I want to know. Like, do I bring it to be able to just integrate your that would be great. And then is that monetized too? Because if you're partnered already, I mean, that would be great for me.

Yeah. That's I mean, I wouldn't want to go through any hooking up all my episodes, and yeah, kind of like mess like that. And like, where's it gonna go in my timeline? I don't want all of them appearing in front of all the stuff I've done. Yeah, it's

gonna be it's all relatively new. There was announcement but yeah, that it'll be interesting. I, as much as I don't like YouTube. It's just another avenue. I mean, it's the second biggest search engine in the world other than Google. So, I mean, it's good to have it on there. But hopefully, it's as easy as like, you know, adding it to Stitcher or Spotify or whatever from your, from your host. So I got this real quick. From Steve's website. Actually, I always go to Steve's site. And honestly, this site, all the sites have been slow on news, there has not just been a ton out there. But this is a real quick conversation about Ubers temporarily removing the ability to split fares, like that seems very stupid because all these college kids that get in, you know, they're always like, Oh, you used to be like Venmo me Venmo me or whatever, but now they can split the fare. Why are they doing this? They say they're gonna bring something out. That's a little bit better. But

what it is, is they if you split the fare, they've been having legal issues on who they have an issue with. If people there's you can, oh, anything happens. Even an accident whatever, like who is you have to they have to have one person responsible for the ride.

Yeah, that's interesting. I never thought about that. That is right now I

read this. You know, the article that you're reading off that off my site is the It's weird because I had to go dig even more because I always do to find out what really is behind this. Because they make it sound like Ubers. Yeah, like Ubers about to do something cool. Yes. But they're not there. I mean, they're not going to do anything cool. I don't consider this a bad thing, because I understand why it needs to happen. And I don't do that with anybody. Anyway, like, for me, if I go if I were to go out for a night with somebody like Jason view, and I went out, and I would just say, I got this way, and you got the other way.

or your kids or So Ray, let's

split it, dude. Yeah,

I'll just say since you're so rich, you can just pay for it all in Dallas. All the money you make. I'm gonna have my car.

Are you going to drive down there? Oh, yeah.

How long drive is it for you? hours, you might want to look it up. Yeah, you know, Texas is a really big state. Yeah. Larry says one throat to choke, which is interesting said from Larry, because that guy is so sweet. So it sounds like he'll choke you out. It does say that Lyft has a split or Lyft removed its own split pay in 2018. but has since created a half measure as of 2020. You can use Venmo as a payment and split the fare of a ride from the Venmo app. So that's not that at least they're offering something so yeah. All right, boy, I mean, we are 40 minutes in and I am like five articles in See I knew this would happen when you get a bunch of people

were having too much fun.

I know we always look what's the MC Mac MC MC in a minute. Yeah, I

haven't either. We kind of rallied around Mac about from a certain creator for a while and then he kind of went off off the grid for a little bit. Well, thanks for coming to the show. All right, you guys we have a new sponsor. I'm super excited about it. I've talked about this company for ever. I have been using their products forever. And Middleton Technologies has said we want to go with a gig economy podcast and Gary is great I've been on a bunch of shows with Gary I'm sure you've seen him around if you're in the in the gig community but Middleton technologies they have a bunch of apps they have flexibler Maximo and driver utility helper driver utility helper also known as Duff I talked to my wife I know sometimes I say like I talk gig worker my wife and somebody else that doesn't know and go yeah da and they're like what's done? I'm like, driver utility helper.

Or they're literally like don't talk to me though. Yeah.

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No, he No, he was he was laughing to where you're like, oh,

it's always a delayed comment. And like there's no context with it. I was like, Oh, great. I fucked something up. So

no. By the way, though, before we move on from the Yeah, make sure to go over to my channel and check out the Maximo roundtable that we did two days ago. Oh, shit. I haven't watched it yet. Did you? Anybody who's interested in Maximo? There's a lot to learn in there. Yeah,

for sure. Like I said, I've been talking about Gary's, I've used Gary's apps before I even talked about him.

When everybody's on dah, dah. No, you know, even Gary told me this like everybody's on. That's why you wanted me kind of More pushing Maximo because you know, let's get because riders are rideshare is coming back and stuff.

Yeah. And that's that's the incredible part is with the rideshare and setting the distance limits. Oh, my gosh, it's so nice. The only problem is Uber, they're assholes. And after three declines, they sign you out. But he's got something in there where it copies and pastes that your password and everything. It's only like two clicks, and you can get back into the app. But that's not that's not Middleton Tech's fault. That's Uber being there whiny bitches about everything. So. Alright, moving on. Let's see.

So much of DoorDash pausing your dash for to clean too many orders.

Well, you gotta get quite a few of them now. Depends on

how many drivers are in the market. Sometimes when I know that there's a lot of drivers, it'll it'll put me on pause after like four declines really declines. Yeah, it varies.

I love the one part about DoorDash I do like as you can pause your dash or you can actually mult if you didn't use Gary's apps, which you should you can multi app with that and just pause it and that's another thing about Gary's app. You know, they turn all the other ones off so it just it's a safer way out to tap your phone so many times when you're driving because you know, it's pretty much illegal

unless distracted and in some places now it is illegal.

Yeah, I was gonna say it's pretty much illegal all the way around. So right but

in some places, like you can't touch your phone for anything anymore. If the cop sees like like Truckee, California we were talking about the other day there's other places do big cities. If they see you do and it's like a $500 ticket. Even if your phone is on a mount Yeah, it's on a mount if you put your healthy if they put your hand to it if you touch it, so they don't even care what you were doing anymore. If you're like doing anything they're gonna be like, Oh man,

well Michigan I have a D O T even though my my weights under 10,000 pounds. I still have to have a D O T I cannot legally touch my phone while I'm driving because I'm coming because when your D O T certain department of transportation certified I guess I don't know. But

and for Truckee, California to Tahoe City and then all the way around Lake Tahoe. You have to have it's a $500 ticket in if not only touching it if your phone is anywhere your arm can reach. Oh

geez. Well, how am I going to text and drive? I know you're gonna have to really so it's obvious that you're doing it. Anyways. All right, Gary had asked a question about dating and this is kind of what that in the title it says went on a date last week took her to Applebee's and everyone knew me. I explained her that I'm a top Dasher then showed her my smart car. She hasn't returned my texts. I don't understand. I'm a top Dasher. Of course there's 233 comments so just kind of a joke on you can get more dates if you're a top Dasher. I really want to have a conversation with somebody that is a top Dasher though honestly like I wish they I could say Do you think you actually make more money? What are your thoughts on that John? I know you're a big door Dasher. Are you a top Dasher? It did we just let a cat out of the bag.

It's always a top Dasher in my in my market. My car would probably have like 100,000 Miles right now. Because like at least a third of the orders are 10 to 15 miles and in peak rush hour traffic. Oh my god, I can't do that. But you know who was the top Dasher? nugs

is he? You know, I was gonna tell you as to Jason that you should have on the show is Ron entre courier

Oh, is he a top Dasher?

He's going for it. He's going he's doing he you know he is right now and he's doing it he's doing like I can't remember what it is whatever that number is. He's doing like 250 Top Dasher rides every one to see the difference. Okay, so he's doing an experiment I should ask him man he's a good be a good person have fun? Yeah, I you Ron's a great conversation

Yeah, we connected at a little bit back but I'm oh my gosh, you're connected so many. I can't even keep up with it. But Max says I used to shoot for top Dasher all the time. I don't know. Like, I just ethically I cannot make a delivery for $2 I just can't it just I wouldn't do anything for $2 I mean, I mean all right now all right now that's gross. You know what I mean? This isn't this isn't TNC radio. Yeah, I know. But you're laughing Yeah, so Max is if you'd in his old market if you didn't have top Dashers extremely difficult to get scheduled. I didn't even go on the schedule. I just wait till it gets red and turn it on. So I got my

it's a good night. Oh, really? Yeah, cuz it drops. guys grab it real quick. Interesting.

I mean, I find that to be honest, everything I've done with parent all the people on DoorDash that I've worked with, I find most of what I would call the top Dashers and this isn't just a pair of thing. This is just overall outside of it even all fall under 10% acceptance. Oh yeah. Yeah, I had all the best Dashers are under 10% However, now they have this whatever it is, John, you're probably familiar with this. Like if you pick up clothing or something like that they're offering those so if you decline that this blew my mind the other day, if you decline that your dash acceptance goes up if it's not food delivery so if like if it's a no it's they're trying to look make the appearance that all their Dashers don't have a 1% acceptance rate. Oh, interesting. So I want to there was I post limit your eight year which still high hits you that means you're in the top 10% Exactly.

My mall my stuff is on my work phone. But anyways, I want to real talking about some, some issues same some of the cherry picking yourselves to kind of trigger my brain on Facebook, I posted an audiogram and, you know, someone comment on it. And he's like, you know, we're talking about gas prices and what do you do to compensate for it? That was what the audio clip was about. But he says just work harder and longer to cover extra costs of gas, like, okay, and do not cherry pick jobs, do the right thing by your passengers. And I replied, I get working longer, but why not cherry pick? He says why? Because you should do. You should do the right thing for the traveling public. They are your source of income. And I says I'm not running a charity. I'm an independent contractor. I'm out there to make money for me and my family. Then he says so you'll take the cream and neglect. Wash it. It played another video. What? Sorry. I'm sorry, God. Dang Facebook.

Just when I was getting good.

No. Yeah, I was reading the comments. Hold on. Gosh, darn it. He

was trying to shut it real quick was Pornhub he's like,

Oh, no, it's gonna show. Oh, my God. Dang it. Let's see. Okay, so you will take the cream and neglect the rest and let your coworkers look after your discards. I'm like co workers. So it's just a weird like, it reminded me of him being a top Dasher. And and yeah, it's just weird. So I thought I'd engage them a little bit. You know, we don't get a ton of engagement on those audio grams. So I was like, I'll talk to but I'm like coworkers. And I like cherry pick. I'm like, This guy is like I literally I'm not running a charity. Why would I not cherry pick but that's just that's just me. What's a co worker? I know exactly. I have co workers that my w two I don't I don't eat them out and doing gig works. We're all friends. But we are kind of all competing. I mean, us three but if I was in your Martin

Yeah, but no, really like, you know, if all you guys lived in my market, I feel like we could get rid of everybody. Yeah.

will go to the airport. And we're all turned our apps off.

We're just thrilled like nails under their tires.

I mean, are they already doing that? By being top Dasher?

No, yeah.

I don't know. You know, I asked Ron. So that that was a question. You know, I said so far, how's it going? So it's not just kind of and he's like, 140 in and he said, he said, I'm making I said, are you making less or more? And just money not Let's not break down the expenses. And he was like, I'm making about exactly the same but my gas and my miles is twice. Oh, yeah. He's like, so I'm making way less.

Yeah, because you're probably taking the rides that are a lot further away because you're accepting. Gross. Okay, we're gonna get through some of these Uber has changed their green pricing. Basically, they got rid of the 50 cent green trip from the, from the driver or from the rider still get the gas surcharge, but I didn't know. Harry had posted that I didn't even know a lot about it. But But yeah, I don't have an Eevee I really want an Eevee but I don't have one. Do they produce? Yeah, no, I'm thinking about I'm not a Prius I need I need somewhat of an SUV if I do Amazon flex, although I do see people pull up to that warehouse in a frickin Prius and do Amazon.

They are blender hybrid,

but the they are but the we're doing rural stuff and a dirt road. And I mean, it's just it's gonna wreck the suspension and anything but I'm actually looking at our rav4 hybrid or a prime rav4 But they're hard to get right now. What do you have in your hand or you can

get this. This is for my beer. But this is a siphoning kit where you can just take other people's cast.

I'm like where's he going for this? Is that penis pump? Is it what are we doing here like

I actually have the new body wrap for 2019 Get the gas one. I love it. It rides great. I've been on some dirt roads and handles it fine.

Yeah, I like the new body style. It's bigger. My wife has a 16. And it's the still the smaller one or one. Yeah, but it's a little too small for me, but I definitely like the new body. So the Toyota The only thing I saw about the feedback, they get way better gas mileage than the HR or HRV a CRV. But they run a little loud. There's not a lot of soundproofing in there. That was the only complaint I can actually notice that my wife's car, it just you hear stuff a little bit more on the outside. Not that it's a big deal. I got air pods in anyway. So good.

Really, I've had to grab fours back to back.

Yeah, you haven't noticed it? Yeah, because you're not in another car.

Well, I also pull their music and stuff. Yeah, I

know. My car's got 250 on it. There's a ton of rattles in there. And then don't you know, John had sent this to me as well. This is a blocking driver. And oh, it's hard to see. I didn't crop it. But what do you guys thoughts on that? He's picking up at Red Robin. I mean, the chances of any one back I mean, he's gonna be in and out really quick. I do that all the time. I'm not gonna lie. You're not a fan of that, John.

Well, not only that, but the Red Robin in my market. It's super slow. So well, I could just find a plug in parking spot and walked in a restaurant. That's what I do.

Yeah, I mean, you got to know your where you're picking up. I don't think I would ever pick up there. But if I'm dropping off food, like at a customer like an apartment complex, you know what I mean? I'll block that in. But yeah, I agree. You know, and your battery

doesn't start all of a sudden. Right? You're Sol at that point? Yeah, for sure.

Look at this. Look at this payout. This is I saw this from going around 240 $200. This mofo made in 66 hours. So that six hours? Yeah, so that's a lot of hours. But that's not a lot hours for that much money. But if you look at the breakdown, his net fare was two grand promotions. 1800 And then other earning 24 and tip $401. But

it's all about the promotion. It's all about if you don't play the promotions. rideshare is dead.

But look at the numbers. If you take the promotions out, he made $2,000 He made almost basically $2,500 in 66 hours, that still isn't horrible.

He's no but the market he's in. That should be more for that many hours like Sergio. You know, Sergio, he lives right by us, John. Sergio works for the rideshare guy. He's like one of the top earners that there is. And he can make more than that. Without that promotion money. Dude, he'll make he'll make like $1,500 in 25 hours weekly, without promotion without promotion. How? I don't know. Because

I mean, he's a basic Uber X. He's got to be running black.

No, he's X. Come on. I'm not kidding you. That is He did those pay challenges. They're even up on the rideshare guys website, like where people were saying I can make more doing deliveries like really? And like they did like this three week challenge. And after the first week, all the three delivery drivers that were challenging him all bowed out, because they said we can't make that much in the whole three weeks. You just

have to share that link because I need to see his payouts I need I can't

do it here. You can't do it there. Yeah, just a possibility in LA if you've got if you know what he knows. What does he know? He just has been doing it long enough. And he really has it dialed like he'll he works. He knows exactly he won't work one second out of a surge.

Okay, okay. Yeah, I should watch that a little bit of be interesting. Okay, the slap heard around the world. This is This is Will Smith slapping Chris Rock and the picture is 225 on Chris Rock his face and then Will Smith saying declined. But I bring this up because I want to actually know your opinion. Do you think that was fake? Or real?

100% staged?

I think it was real.

Why do you think it stays John? Did you see it? Yeah, so

me too, I think weird. And then also, Chris Rock has a short guy. If you have someone like Will Smith wall power walking out you. You will take a step back. Are you like Hey, what are you doing? They'll be like some type of natural reaction. You're just like, like wait, he likes waiting for that? Yeah,

not at the Oscars though. Yeah, I mean, they're like he of course he's not expecting to as far as Chris Rock knew it. What you're right. Maybe he thought it was staged on him. Like this was gonna be something weird because he was even if you've looked at it from different angles, he got smacked dude, this wasn't Oh, no, he did. But I don't think it was staged either that anger and Chris Rock and some of the other people speaking out and the deal was that they made behind closed doors to already close this down? I mean,

yeah, but look at how well reacted, you can see the camera he laughs at the joke. He looks at his wife and then gets pissed. I mean,

I'll be because he was okay with it till he looked at Jada. Yeah. And then he it's just if you know their story is just, they're weird.

Well, yeah, I mean every every celebrity is weird but right

but he comes across as the one of the nicest guys in Hollywood usually. Yes, he is. But I mean, like that was very, very out of character for him.

Right. But I agree with John, even if you if you don't think yeah, like if it was staged. If it wasn't stage, he would have stepped back. I mean, I don't care who it is. He's coming up. He's taller than you. Like, you would have stepped back. I would have probably taken a frickin position. You know what I mean? You would move to at the very

least Yeah, yeah. Do they? Literally, I bet I've done production enough. I know that like I'm the only one of us three that does production. You're told, okay, timing. You're taught timing. You'll stand here. You don't move.

Yeah, but if someone's walking toward it might be staged.

I mean, you're not thinking I will if I was Chris Rock, I'm not gonna think he's gonna hit me.

But then he didn't even respond like, Dude, I wouldn't be like, what? I would have gotten right back Adams.

Like, dude, I think they take you through enough of that. I mean, why is why is the constant chatter. I mean, why would Will Smith wreck his career? It's doing some major damage right now.

I say the opposite. I think he's gonna get bigger because of this.

Exactly. You know what they say? There's no such thing as bad PR.

Yeah, that's your unless you're unless you're a guy who comes across as the nicest guy in Hollywood and you go up and smack somebody at the Encore or the Oscars for the first I don't think

that her I don't think I heard him.

I mean, honestly, that the Oscars needed that shit because that shit was terrible. The Oscars were

tanking. That's why I think it was staged. Yeah, we got people to talk about the Oscars a little bit more.

Yeah. Anyways. Okay, a couple more things real quick this giant as dirt as John would you take this? It's 190 items for $124 and only eight mile drive.

How long do you think they'll take the shop for

though at least two hours at least? So

I think I would take it just for the hell of it. Like just

for the story. Yeah, so Steve knows shipped I know Walmart they tell you where everything is DoorDash kind of tells you where they are but not as accurate as shipped in Walmart. I would I honestly that shop would probably take me three hours. Honestly, but what do you think Steve?

Um, you know I love low paying gigs I would probably take me four and oh yeah, I'm all over him you

know I'm just I mean especially I don't shop at Meijer if I did ship that's their main target and my other main gigs as you know target and

why don't you shop and Meijer that's one of the things I miss about Michigan. Well I

my wife does for our for our family, but I don't do shipped. I do Walmart

higher part of Kroger. By the way. One thing that we talked about last night too was if I don't know if you know this, Jason I didn't know this till last night that if you if you work shipped, and it doesn't matter how much so if you're still on the app and active you have a free ship membership. Yeah, I do. I didn't even know that dude. Like, I can get my stuff delivered for free. It's awesome.

But they do raise the prices on everything. The prices are elevated on the ship app.

So well, but not a target because that's there.

Maybe not a target. I know at least at Meijer in our area like if it's $1 for a loaf of bread it's $1.10 or on the ship app and it adds up you know if you're doing a bigger but I don't I don't know if Instacart does that I don't think so. I

don't know. That's awesome, dude. Yeah, I mean, cuz I don't really take advantage of those type services because I do that stuff. So just take care of myself. Yeah, you know even

Walmart ads the same thing they don't give it to you but if you earn if you do enough deliveries in the month they give you a free month of that service.

So do you guys just target drive up?

Target drive up? What do you mean? Yeah,

yeah, no, I do the chips. What do you do shopping on target up and then just go pick it up a day bring it out to your fees or anything? Yeah.

You just you phrased it wrong. I we call it curbside so Drive. Drive up. I don't know. Oh, interesting. Yeah, I don't know. Target might,

you know, there was an interesting article. I wish I could pull this up right now about like, because I was doing it during the pandemic too. I needed a couple of those HEPA filters is I was having that major Azmuth stuff going on and stuff. Right but um, so I had that brought up to the car. But there was an article about how sometimes accidentally returned products get taken to that section. Aisle rally. So they're like, Yeah, you drive up I want my HEPA filter. Somebody took it home, so it just doesn't work. Really well and that it's in that customer. Yeah, I they made it sound like an accident like it just when it happens. It's we don't know it was here, like, royally? Yeah,

there's so many scams out there for that shit. Real quick, this is kind of funny. The fact that people used to deliver pizzas before GPS is so absurd to me, people were really calling up a pizzeria. Like, I want a large pizza delivered in 30 minutes, I'm going to give you a house number and a random street name. Good fucking luck. So I bring that up is because and John may have never experienced this because he's a little baby over there. But Steve and I are older and I, I've been doing lawn care for 20 years. So I've always got laid off in the winter. And I always do some kind of work. Like I can't sit home and collect unemployment. And not that I haven't for a couple of weeks here and there. But we used to use map books, you know, like the old school or we'd have a giant map on the back of the door and be like, Okay, right here, left here. Go. And that's what we used to do. So it's totally doable. I mean, I'm sure Steve has has done that.

Dude, I still I to be honest, I love maps, I still have topographical maps of Colorado. I like using maps. Now,

I'm not gonna go that far. I'm just saying I mean,

I guess but here's, here's the thing I do. I do use it to get to places that are difficult to get to. And they have the elevation rings, things I need to know.

Right? Yeah, I mean, it's different for you. But I mean, I use GPS for everything now. But yeah, yeah, I definitely used to deliver for jets pizza. I used to just get my paper map and just do the

thing. Growing up and knowing phone numbers. Yeah,

I mean, it wasn't easier. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying it was easier to do it that way. But it is doable. I mean,

I used to be able to know 25 I don't know my mom's number anymore. I know my own home phone. She's like a normal speed dial number. Yeah,

I know my wife's. I don't even know my daughter's number. Like I don't

I don't know my son's number. Yeah. I don't know his number. Yeah,

everyone. He's in the next room. Max's Thomas guides were the best is that like, like,

Thomas is the was the wire bound are the ones you'd see at truckstops.

Oh, yeah, those are really high quality.

Yeah, those are the good ones. How

do people take road trips, like back in the day in the 80s? Like, you're driving to Florida, like, take 75 south and hope you get there like

gas station.

I remember. I remember taking road trips and like kinda, you know, you even if you had a map, you were still like, you know, you get to a spot and pick up a payphone. Again. Something that doesn't exist on paper. Yeah, you pick up a phone at a restaurant and be like, okay, and then it's the next exit. Now what I know he'd be like pen and paper, write it down.

You know, I'm rewatching Seinfeld and there was an episode where they're trying to go to this movie and they can't connect they keep missing each other. I'm like, cell phones yo like wires no one texting each other. I'm like, oh my god, that was a rough time back then. Without cell phones that sucked ass so read that last one and then we'll get a final word for me to you guys. This says instructions leave at my door. Don't knock. Cut this off. Don't knock my boyfriend thinks we're on a diet. I'm trying to eat like shit. Turn your head light off if possible. Yeah, I'm terrible. I wish we had a better outside light but we're at blank. Please try not to flash your headlight because I because I'll be found out and it will cause a fight and I want my damn case to do Thanks in advance. I mean, I don't know if that's even legit. But it's still funny as hell. What is the craziest instructions if you've ever seen him in John you're the biggest DoorDash or so I feel like you'd see the most I haven't seen anything too crazy just little like don't leave on the ground like that.

Yeah, I'm trying to think if I've had any crazy directions that come to mind right now.

Yeah, it's I put you on the spot so

no one the one thing I've had happen again I don't have John is our of delivery. He's the one the resident

talk Dasher. Yes.

But for what I have done, I have had people call me like, you know and say, oh, you know what? I'm uh, I'm actually my boyfriend's house. Can you bring it here instead? And I've already gone through the whole spiel and got the food I'm on my way to the hair on your way. And you know, damn well, they didn't forget they ordered it from their house. It took a little too long. They went to the boyfriend's house. And now they're like, just bring it here. Yeah. like it like that's just so easy like, oh, anything for you personally don't care about, right?

Oh my god. I have a story from the road I you just triggered me about the wrong address. This is alright, I'm gonna end with this. It's me being a customer. Okay, so yes, first mom passed away we got him a bunch of stuff or whatever and then I wanted to order him some booze. We like Knob Creek that's kind of what we liked the one that you sent, but it's damn expensive. So I mean it's, you know, at minimum 50 bucks a bottle. So, which was really damn good, so smooth. But we've I bought some night cream on DoorDash and I'm like, Okay, I'm going to do this, right. So you you can preorder everything you can schedule on like, this is me from a customer and so I scheduled it to Yes, verse house. Totally fine, right. So he's like, bah, bah, bah. He's like, Alright, I'm starting to shop for you finds it starts going. My camera goes off at my house. I'm at the cottage show. My mother in law has a cottage so she wants to go down downtown Grand Rapids. So I'm at the convention center. Like, that's weird. Look at the camera. It's the fucking DoorDash guy. I forgot to put your spurs address in the app. Right? Okay, so I text them, Hey, can you take it to this address? I'll pay you extra. What's your Venmo? You know what I mean? I'm going to take care of him. And he's like, Yeah, I can do it. But I'm worried about not being able to drop it off because of the GPS or whatever. Okay, cool. So I was like, I'll reach out to support reach out to support in fact, support was incredible on the customer and they're like, I'll take care of you. I changes like, usually when you're a Dasher, they're like, fuck you. I mean, it was incredible customer service. So within three minutes, I had this address change. Cool message the guy. Hey, the adjustors changes should be fine on the GPS. Okay. Now mind you. Yes. Burt doesn't leave the house. Okay. He works from home since the pandemic he doesn't leave his wife works from home they never leave driver gets there. Guess who's not fucking there? Yes. For Yes. For and his wife. Well, I call Yes, spur. Yes, but where are you? While we're buying clothes for the kids for the funeral? Shit. You never leave the house? She didn't. He's like what's going on? I was like, I bought you a bottle of booze. Okay, fine. So I say, what are we going to do? He's like, Alright, my neighbor's home. I text the guy. Hey, can you wait this like five more minutes? I'll pay you more here in the I know, this is

it's are you paying them along the way? At least?

Why pay them? Well, first, I wasn't gonna pay him the 15 until he got to yesterday's house and delivery. Because what if I paid him the Venmo? And he's like, oh, you know, when he takes the boot or whatever? I didn't think he was like, so I've already paid him the 15. Okay. Yes. There's like, oh, I call they're not home. And he's like, What do you want me to do? And I was like, okay. Just wait, are you comfortable dropping the booze off? He's like, Well, I need to see the license. I'm like, Well, you can say it doesn't scan, you can enter it manually. I can get that information for you. I am not going to ask you to do it. I told them. I was a gig worker. At this point. I'm like, I'm, I'm a gig worker. And I plugged the podcast. So anyway. I mean, come on, why not? Like so? And he's like, No, I'm not. I'm not going to do that. I you know, I'm not comfortable. I'm like, totally cool. I was like, I don't want you to break the rules. I was like, if you're not comfortable with that, I'm totally cool. Because I know I've delivered booths. And if the scanner doesn't work, you just enter the information and you can override it. Is that correct? John?

Yeah, I believe so. I've actually gotten called over what didn't ask an ID at all.

Oh, Jesus, Jenny. Well, I had one to ask for ID for Nyquil. Because there's actually alcohol on it, but a little bit. So anyways, I was like, Alright, are you can bring it back to the store. I'm totally fine with that. And I was like, Yes. Where is actually I said, Where are you heading back to Granville, because that's where I live in Greenville. And he's like, Yeah, I'm heading back to Greenville. I'm like, do you want to meet? Yes, we're at JC Penney. He's at JC Penney. This mo fucker. Drove the JC Penney met him there. Apparently the GPS was an issue and was able to deliver the booze.

Wow, how long was the whole process?

It was probably an hour. So I paid him another 15 So he got 30 cash for me with no fees plus whatever he made. He felt cool about it. Yeah. And he's like, You're so generous. You don't have to pay that much. I'm like, bro, once I committed to you driving to another address, We're BFFs like I'm going to take care of you so hopefully he got a good story out of that. I don't know maybe he'll listen to

no man it's good because you know he's got a good team you know who knows that that guy didn't have to other people in his good career pull that kind of crap that we're all sick of you know

Yeah. If Gary Ceylon here and you to John fuck you. I tip look at that amazing. delivered.

Gary. Gary. Yes,

yeah. I tipped what I thought about that. I thought about that conversation when that was going on. I was like, if I if I can only tell this story if I paid him tons of money and Mark did say most expensive alcohol yet ever. Yes. With the Venmo and the DoorDash. It was a $95 bottle of booze and it's 35 in the store. So if that,

so you should have just gone and bought it for him and wrapped it and taken it to him.

Well, I wanted to be like, Hey, let's use the services, you know, and it was gonna be you know, it was I don't know, I Tip two on the app. So you know, so I mean, he made out dollars. I tip $10 Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's it. $2 No, no, no, I tip $10 So he got he basically got $40 tip for me to do that for the hour plus whatever. DoorDash gave him

I went home after that.

I don't know. Yeah, he seemed very pleased with that. And that's what you got to do. You gotta if you're going to ask someone to jump. I mean, I would have been fine if you would have said no, I'm taken aback. I would have been I get a dude, I fucked up. I put the wrong address in so anyways, any closing thoughts? Steve, what do you got coming up this week?

I got the roundtable with UDM tomorrow night Gary's Gary's not in town. So it's going to be Ron taking his place. Hannibal? me a nice medium

UDM I've never seen any of his stuff. So and then.

Oh, and then Friday got a radio show with a guy named Jason. Yeah,

yes. Burrs gone again. Obviously in Denmark. I'm not going to force him to come on. TNC radio I'm going to fill in again. Yeah, check it out. TNC Radio

dot line and fill in for yourself.

No, it's my it's his week. It's his son of a bitch. Dang it always always recording but anyways, John, what do you got cooking? I don't you need to start a show. You need to do something. I need something to promote. Well, other than your book. Check out this book the five foundations for contentment.

Of course. Your Copy, Steve. There you go. We all got it. Yep. Mine's all busted up. But

yeah. Signed. If you can see that.

You know, your sign to Steve.

Yeah, check John's book out. He he has got a lot more hair than in this.

And the book is the book you guys. For those of you who've gone I don't buy books. This is a quick easy read. And it's got some great information. And in fact, after John after you and I talked about we did our thing then there was a perfect I had right after I read the book. There was a perfect one I was going to use on Bud's soda. Because it actually was talking about how how what we tell him that working too much will kill you. It's gonna kill you.

You guys really got after him on that show? Because dude, he

it's not a joke. The guy works about 100 hours a week. He's shooting for $100,000 this year, but he works seven days a week. It's not worth it. He's killing himself. He lives on monsters.

He's gonna have bad gut issues. Oh,

he's dude, his health is out. He's not doing anything exercise on the side. He's working 50 and 20 hour days.

That's insane. I mean, if he's doing a challenge, and it's gonna be like,

it's not though this is what he just is, like, you know, you know, he's in his mid late 30s. And he's like, I'm gonna go do this. And this is just what I'm gonna do until I have enough. I'm like, that's crazy. You know?

If John is you have you can get this on Amazon.

It's on Amazon. And also, I'm going to try to make more videos about it on my YouTube channel.

Okay, what's your YouTube channel?

It's my name John McCallion just how just how's it spelled here?

Nice check out John's stuff I'll John sent me that stuff and an email on that link so I don't forget to post it for the show. Yeah, cuz

like after John was on mine. We got him some new subscribers and then he put a video up. Oh, a while so

I'll definitely have to go. I'm not subscribed. I didn't know he had a YouTube channel John. John's just laid back dude. He doesn't push it on people like not like Steve where he just fucking text 17 times a day. Every time I go to tick tock, it's Steve on the tick tock. love you buddy. Alright guys, you guys stay on line. I'm gonna end the broadcast. Have a good night.

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