Episode #108

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that's fine. I'm not gonna say no. Maybe I'll maybe we won't come on. We

could we could do that. But we need to get back on normal schedule. Yeah, we do. So we can both be on but either way. It's a good time to talk to. What's the name again?

The name of the show. Oh, the guy he's in town. I wish Bill como Yeah. Where

are you spill?

He apparently picked up a regular job. I don't know why. And so he's been doing some training. He's working for a school system.

I guess I'm talking about Yeah, he's no, he was all into trains.

He loves trains. He's still doing his train podcast, but you can check everything out at TNC Radio dot live. That seems we can't.

We can't go beyond Steve because it's gonna be way too boring to listen to us.

was Steve will shut the hell up for 10 seconds. Maybe we could talk.

Oh, hey, right. Lisa, how you doing tonight?

Oh my gosh. All right.

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anyways yes we're any stories from the road

we're no stars from the road but you know I do I do. I had this little trip that I had to go on I calculated I traveled about 13,000 miles in seven days which was kind of rough found out the hard way that we do not like a lot of layover as my family but but next time we go we have no Leo was it that's kind of Oh, wow, we drive to Chicago and then it's a direct flight from Chicago to Copenhagen. So it's gonna be nice.

Well, how long have a flight that is? Still only nine hours from Chicago to

really yep Chicago to Copenhagen nine hours.

Here's here's a dumb question here for you know, we don't talk about math or geography. So which way around the world do they go? Do they go east? They find East

Well, yeah, they're fine. Yeah. Okay. You fly over you know over you know, Boston or the East Coast. Okay.

Yes over I forgot I forget what that body of water is in the middle. But yes, they fly east and then over a waltz Atlantic Ocean, Britain and then yeah,

okay. In my head. I was thinking they were either gonna go south or north, but I'm an idiot. So

why would they go? Oh, we're gonna fly over the South Pole. That sounds like a good idea.

John says we all want to know what it felt like having Knob Creek delivered to you at a JC Penney's.

So it was not Knob Creek but yeah, it was no they did not. It was not not it was he did not deliver. What was it? He delivered a bottle of well, what is it that it's the local the Traverse? Traverse City? Yeah.

Oh, so that's funny. I put that in as a substitute. But it didn't say he substituted

okay. Yeah, no. So he wasn't it was a travel CD, which is still fine. Love that. Yeah. Oh, so. But yeah, so that was the one he delivered tow. So it was actually it was fun. It was fun. And I thought it was you know, had my hat's off to the guy. He he did he went above and beyond and I must admit, I may have tipped him a little bit as well. You did yeah. You know how much I tipped I heard afterwards but I tipped him five as well. I just Okay, so nothing too crazy. But he went above and beyond so it just that was that was made like

100 bucks on that bottle. I just felt so bad. I'm like, I when I and you all heard the story, but when I call the Esper I'm like Yes. For you never leave the house and both you and your wife are gone. Like how is this even possible?

So what we had to go shop for, for the for the suits?

Totally. I totally get it. But it just in my head. I'm like, oh, he'll be home on Saturday. It'll be fine. Like, man,

it's fine. Again, I just I was impressed that he took the trip. I don't know if you shared this part of the story. But you put the wrong items in first, right? Oh, yeah. So first you in here. And then he went to my house and then went back kids? JC?

Yeah. So I ended up actually forgot about the story when we were recording with even John. And then at the end, it just hit me. So the story doesn't even happen till the end of the podcast. And I was like, oh, that's one. I have a story. So it was fun. It was it was a good experience. And I hope he listened to the show. I told him I actually promote us. I was like, Hey, I'm a gig worker, too. You should check out the gig economy podcast on there. So

again, just super impressed. As far as airline obviously that's the same you still have to wear that mask all the way we flew delta over there, which was fine. We flew Air France back which was way better. Yeah, a lot fancier if just better. It's better quality food. It's just better seats. It's just it's just better. So you know, but that was fine. And then when we fly this summer we're going to fly with with Sal so Scandinavian Airlines. So hopefully they'll really find some that flies out of Chicago. Yes, they do. And then And just before we left off we also got a delivery of cupcakes and cookies and thank you so much guys. It is just it's just amazing to be a part of this community that is kind of just Yeah, support you in that way when something like this happened. So I just I cannot I cannot thank you guys enough. That was really special. My family obviously loved it as well. And sorry, I thank you very much for that.

Yeah, I mean, nothing. Nothing helps your sadness, like cupcakes or cookies.

I know right? I'm like I sugar sugar on whiskey.

I mean, I exclusively when I'm I'm trying to care for somebody I exclusive loose and cookies by design because like, who sends flowers like okay, I love flowers. I grow my own I plant them outside but I if I'm sad and bummed out I want to cookies. Just for everyone listening if I'm sad or bummed out, send me that it'll make me feel better. Well, we're glad that you're back. We're glad everyone's safe and home and back into the swing of things again. Yeah, it was. It was tough having you gone actually, my other friend was gone out of the country too at the same time, so both my best friends were literally out of the country on the other side of the world. So

we had to get away from you can't find the button.

Play? There we go. Anyways, alright, so we have a lot to talk about. Tonight, we're going to talk about some dashcam video, the release of a murdered Pennsylvania Uber driver driver got robbed a bunch of stuff. So we're gonna jump right into it. And this just kind of shows some dashcam footage of this driver that had happened in February. So we'll kind of look at it and it's very short and then we'll kind of talk about it

should do video serving as evidence in the murder of a Pennsylvania Uber driver and we want to warn you this may be hard to watch. Allegheny County Police say the man in the back is the suspect Calvin crew you see crew get in the back of Christie's mkuze is Uber. This was back in February the video released by the Court yesterday. Less than 20 minutes into the ride. Police a crew pulled out a gun and pressed it to the back of spicuzza his head as she pleaded with him.

Come on man. I got a family what are you doing? What are you doing? Please stop the cornice for cans water you doing our

detectives say crewmates because I drive for an hour while going through a banking haps. Before killing her. The trial for cabin crew got underway yesterday.

We have a second, there we go. So that's sad. Interesting that she had a dashcam he turned it off. So the ride actually was an hour longer after that. And it's like why did you even kill her? Like you could? I don't understand. I don't even understand the motive. I didn't I watched some follow up videos. But it's good that she had a dashcam at least that point that probably really caught him because of that dash cam. But man, it's tough. Like Larry says, Good point. That could be any of us. Yeah, she just randomly you know, just picking up people. And I don't know, we're going to talk about a little bit later an article about what was what's the time if more than 50 Gig workers have been killed at work in the US

the danger of working gig, right?

Yeah, yep. I mean, you hate to say the odds doesn't seem that bad 50 Out of how many drivers and but it's still, it's just most of them are just random. It's not even like that's the scary part. Like Larry said, you know, it could be any one of us. It's not like premeditated. That's the weird part.

One. One thing I was thinking about like and we'll talk about later, but one thing I was thinking about earlier was like climbing diving and granite, but it was never something that crossed my mind.

Really? No, never. You never safety never crossed your mind. Well, it

did. But I never felt unsafe. Oh, that's never felt unsafe.

Yeah, I can say a few. I was like, I don't know. They're quiet. They're sitting right behind me. No one's talking. That's uh, it was

one I was uncomfortable with. But every other word was MF. Oh,

well, you should be used it with me.

But um, yeah. I need I need the buttons over here.

No, we're not giving you your own button.

I want buttons.

That's super dangerous. So yeah, I mean, just be safe, y'all. We're going to talk even some more safety later on. But yeah, it's just one of those things, man, you just got to be aware. But yeah, I don't think that she could have done anything different. I mean, what do you do?

Well, and the only thing did was you could have done was stay home, but then she doesn't make any money. Right?

Yeah. But then the question is, should she have a weapon on her? Or Should she jump out of the car while it's moving? Like every

Right, right. But in this situation, do you think she would have been able to use the weapon successfully? I mean, that's the thing. Right? It's like, it's how, how is she able to do that?

Yeah, you got it in that situation? You got to be really trained in that weapon to use it efficiently to in that position, because you're basically if you're doing it, you're drawing and then you have to somehow turn around. I mean, even if you're right handed, like how do you you would have to put it in your left hand and yeah, it's just weird.

No, yeah. Yeah. So do I agree that there are certain instances where we be nice to have a some kind of a weapon to protect yourself? Sure. I can see, I don't even know. But it's just I don't even know if I would know how to use it in this situation.

Yeah. Larry said about the only thing she could have done was to crash the car. Hmm. I never even thought about that. See, we were like armchair quarterbacks over here because we don't know and that when you're in that tense situation, you don't think straight?

No. So no, let's do that. But then again, maybe I actually not a bad idea. Larry right. Because if she was wearing a seatbelt he obviously was not. Yeah, so speed up and then break. I mean, who thinks about that, but

still, you're going 90 miles an hour? I mean, right? That you're gonna hurt yourself too.

But well, yes, but you won't die.

Hopefully, maybe do it at like 60 Let's let's let's take the wall at 60 Not not 70 But yeah, that sucks. All right, moving on. This is a what is this? Yes. For you. I was gonna promo it. Yeah, I

just I forget. Just play it.

Oh, sorry. I was reading a text. Yeah,

just play this is a tape talking about God being robbed. God Rob doing UberX tonight. First and last time in the Bronx

Victoria Listen, is this a nice call? You know, I'm not gonna lie, bro. Like usually I don't let people send a fine but I felt but we're serious, serious causes. I'm Scott time we're big money. God said I could touch was like, yo, yo thing and this is fine. This is this is someone need I'm not gonna lie. Like, honestly, this is something on me. So I'm gonna need you to like give me everything. But like I'm not gonna lie. Don't pass this red light because I'm gonna eat everything. No, like, show me your series. pockets while I need that. I need that. I need that. Filming make make sure this idea isn't here for me because let you try to do anything like the college is over. Y'all. Come on, bro. You're not too good. The ideas here? Yeah.

Yo,

yo, what the hell just happened, bro.

What do you think about that? I read some comments that people thought it was fake. I

was gonna say it kind of feels a little fake. Kind of feels a little fake.

I let you watch it during the pre show and I wasn't gonna bring it up. But no,

it'd be put here's the thing. He wasn't showing any weapon or nothing. Yeah, he was saying I need that. Okay. I mean,

it. What would you do that? Well, if he's not showing a weapon, what would you do to say no.

Get out of my car.

Okay, well, you're just gonna have an argument with it with somebody like that. Well,

I don't know. I don't know that I would give him everything I had. I mean, I don't know it's tough. It's the same thing right and we can be we can sit here we can comment Howard Howard Scott gonna be how it's gonna go right. I don't know.

Hey, hey, Steve from writer rodeo. Its stage just like the Will Smith Chris Rock slap.

Now on week four we shouldn't get into because it fell states at one point. But all this all this phone all right now?

Yeah. Well, Steve, as Steve has like, sending me I haven't respond to him. Because I pretty I'm leaning towards now it wasn't staged. But early on. It was I was saying it stage. And Steve said it was real. And he was fussy about it. And he was sending me texts about all these different views on the cameras and stuff. So

Well, I mean, the thing if it wasn't for the fallout on will right now. I mean, he's been 10 years he cannot get back into the Yeah,

no, I totally agree. Now it's like, now I agree. But early on, it was it was funny. Steve got real worked up about that. So reviews

and how tos. So yeah, there is somebody sitting the bank. Now again, this is he starts by saying GLORIA So I'm assuming that's the girl sitting in the back. But yeah, but again, she couldn't Yeah, you're right. She couldn't put a gun in the back of the we don't know the video can say that. So that's true. I doubt it. But But again, it's it's one of those I I would hope that I wouldn't just hand over my phone on my pot water, but I can't tell. Maybe I would I don't know.

But yeah, I think I would because then that same might have just been confused because it wasn't how you told the guy did see confused. He definitely did seem confused. But here's the thing too. It's kind of the same situation as, as the gal with a gun like, like are you don't want her to have a weapon because she couldn't use it. But what would you be able to do? Like, what if he said, No, I'm serious. You just gonna keep what? Event?

Let's let's play that well in that situation had I had a gun, then I would have pulled it and say no can oh my god really? Yeah. Because he sat next to me true and I would have had I would have had and again hopefully I would have had the guns I could grab it with one hand one hand. Yeah, and pull it back and say Get the fuck out of my car. Right, right. But again, oh, sorry.

No, you're good. Yeah, it's again, it's always it's always hard to know what to do. But

it certainly is. Again, I was mostly confused because he's talking like, I need that. Okay, then go get a job dude.

Anyways, Lyft is starting to offer 15 minute break. So it says if you need a few minutes to use the restroom or refill your tank during a ride, shriek you can sign out of the Lyft driver app for up to 15 minutes once per ride Street, come back online and still earn your street bonus. So I bring that up because there have been many conversations in the telegram group, which you should join by the way, the link is in the description. About Lyft screwing you over on these Lyft bonuses, and you have to be perfect. And if you screw up a little bit or don't take a ride or whatever. So I just thought it was interesting that Lyft was offering that opportunity for drivers to do that. I don't know. What do you think on that?

Again, I haven't driven left in years, right and literally years, literally years. My first thought was is there really that many streaks that they can't just take a break when the streak is over?

I mean, usually they're three streak rides, but it could still be an hour.

I mean, I was I would easily drive for hours without a break back when I was driving. You didn't

Pete You didn't pee for four hours. No easy.

Oh, I

mean, we all know my bladder. It's like every other ride. That's why you have bottles. Well, exactly. Exactly. I don't need the 15 minute break.

I remember some some of those evening a night where things were just going crazy. I was just right. You're right. You're right. And the adrenaline will keep going. No, I wouldn't get out easily before I was about to write you know, I'm stopping.

Matt says it's a good thing for drivers and there are times rewrites can take 90 minutes. See clearly you don't you must have a bladder very big. Your bladder not the other thing.

But um, but but. Okay, so I can only talk about Greg Abbott's market, right because that's all but has. Has You Ever Have you ever? Has there been times where there's been three or four streaks after each other?

No. Well, yes, there has. But remember, you're only driving during the busy time when they don't have streaks. Oh, no. Yeah, he's streaks are like from two to three in the afternoon where your your rides aren't like coming in hot and fast. But like, I mean, it's just nice with that. They offered that. I mean, it's just a good. You know,

it is it is nice. I just don't know if I think is necessary. But

yeah, it's just a thought. Okay, what else we got Instacart tip baiting protection.

The wonderful life of tip baiting?

I mean, it never happens.

All the time. It happens. You know, I was reading this article earlier. And my first comment to Jason was, they shouldn't just they should not allow them to change the tip ever. Right period. Like, why? Why are they even doing that? I mean, I can see the reasoning for it. Oh, I actually didn't put in $100 I meant to put in 10.

But what about that? What about bad service, though? I mean, what if the driver just throws the groceries in the driveway and drives away? And you tipped him? 50 bucks, they should they be able to get that. But then you gotta have documentation. We all have smartphones, right? Like if the driver did that as much as you can you have to have pictures and or I don't know, it just seems strange. Okay,

so let's get to the article. Okay. So the idea is that they, they are starting a new thing. So they're doing tip protection up to $10. So that Instacart will cover up to $10 If a customer eliminates the tip after delivery without reporting an order problems. There's a big thing right there. Yeah, without reporting an order problem. So once again, the idea is to get rid of the whole tip baiting issue. Right, which I mean, it's a good thing to trying to work out a method to get rid of it, I guess. Yeah, but I just I don't know. I wish there was a better way. Cuz you're right now you mentioned it. Well, what if those bad service Yeah, I wish there was is a better way of doing but again, so I've used it a couple of times I've used some other services. I have never changed my tip afterwards, you know, even when there has been times where it's been lacking, right, interesting. And so maybe instead of doing the change a tip, maybe have a, how would you experience and have a better way for Instacart? Or do you other services? To follow up on that?

Yeah. And yeah, instead of just like, a simple email of like, this happened, okay. Let's talk about it a little bit more, right?

Maybe, maybe the, maybe the shopper and the person receiving it can take a photo of, hey, this is how it was left, or whatever? Well, they

do do that. The shopper does do that. Known as

the shopper. But the person receiving Oh, yeah, so maybe when it's been dropped off, you know, willy nilly on my watch, I can take a photo of and say, Hey, this is what it looks like. Yeah,

for sure. Yeah, most people are most people will easily complain via email. But when you start asking for pictures, a lot of people aren't going to go through all that work to because if they wanted to change their tip, they would have to knock their groceries over or whatever. Not as many people are going to do that. Right. I have a question for you. What do you do you like to pre tip when you're ordering stuff like that? Are you a post tipper?

I'm a pre tipper. But that's you. That's because I know that my pre tip is gonna, it's gonna affect how quickly I get my order. But true, but that but that's only that's only when I order food. So I have a pre temper when I order food. Excuse me, we don't do delivery. We don't do grocery orders that often. No. So no. And honestly, that couple times we've done and we have not been that impressed on, unfortunately. So

yeah, it depends on what us how, how hilarious would it be if you pre tipped at Red Robin. So next time you go to dinner, just drop a 20 down and they'll be like, Alright, there's my tip. It just see what There's your tip. See what she says?

Interesting. I don't know. I don't know. It's not a bad idea.

I mean, it would just be a funny experience. Yeah. Oh, I forgot to tell you this hat is from the rideshare guy.

I was gonna say yeah. It looked like a nice.

Yeah, I got it's sweet. I love it. I got a price on this hat. It's not that expensive.

I'm just saying that you're paying for it.

Yeah, he did. I mean, I mean, you know, it's kind of like I'm a fan. So anyways, this is a cool hat. He's not selling him now. So unfortunately, this is one of a kind

Steve, I didn't get ahead from you. What's up with that? Steve doesn't

even have Steve Do you even have merch?

I'm waiting for him to answer. Beep

beep beep he left. So lift No. laryea said he's preaching. You have the service have a preacher's son. Yeah.

Oh, man. I mean, why? What? I wonder what the

what? So say it's the same concept by so this is one thing that I haven't actually done it yet. But I probably should. So I follow this guy. And what is his name? And I forget he lives in Manhattan. He does a ton of traveling right? Yeah. So every time he tries every time he gets on the fly on a plane, the first thing he does is he always have a bag of candy. Usually m&ms, okay? And he hands it to his stewardess as he walks onto the plane, okay. And it just sets the tone for the student. It sets the tone for the for the flight for him. And instead of people either being like, nasty or whatever, they just nice and smiling. Yeah. And I can see the same happening as I get into the restaurant. If I start by giving them 20 bucks. Here you go. That should tip. Right. Maybe you'll get a better experience from it.

And but I also think that would ruin so I think I've waited tables before and it was always the hunt, right? We talked about when you're doing gig work like how much you're going to make. So you never knew how much you were going to get. So maybe if you gave her a 20 That wouldn't be enough. She'd be like, Oh, I was hoping for 40 or whatever. I

don't know, but I'd be okay, if I was eating at Ruth's Chris maybe I would give more than 20 with

Chris Ruth's. Chris Yeah, you kind of got to estimate what the bill is going to be in your head anyways.

Because otherwise, if it just feels like 5% then you're probably just a doofus. Yeah,

and they will give you terrible service that I've actually heard of people. Now I've never known anyone to do this. But I've read about it that people take like $20 $1 bills, and if the service is starting to get poor, they they take away the money But see, that's just I know you're just kind of manipulating the I would never do that. But no, no, no.

So John says preach him and add more later if the service is good. That's not a good yeah, that's not a bad idea.

Yeah. So although I've had trouble with I used I don't remember I think I think it was on the show. We talked about it with GrubHub. Maybe not this last show, but this Before I tried to go in there and tip more, and there was no opportunity, I couldn't find a way to do it. Once it was done at least, at least on GrubHub. That's typically the only one I use for delivery because the rest of them suck. Even though I do DoorDash more as a worker,

I've done UberEATS a couple of times at the studio, actually, when I went to the work, so did you. Yeah. All right, not too bad eggs. They did a good job. Okay. That's good.

I mean, they're not all

bad. Of course, no, there's bad apples everywhere, but they're the worst.

All right, so we're going to talk to DoorDash and Lyft should merge. And its first when I heard this, and like, oh, man, that it's stupid. That's not a good idea. But as more as I read the article, I'm kind of on board. So I highlighted a few things on here. The CFO of DoorDash said the people that generally become Dashers are very different audience from the types of people that other good companies competes are competing for. On the call bah bah bah added that the recent survey data showed that over 90% of Dassler said they have no plans to drive for rideshare and only 4% say they prefer to drive rideshare compared to food delivery. That was interesting. And of course, this is coming from a survey from DoorDash. So they're gonna right skew it a little bit different. Uber drivers, that boat that do both delivery and rideshare are in one to 5% more than drivers who focus just on rideshare. It didn't used to be that way. No, no, no, no. Yeah, before the pandemic. I mean, Uber. II mean, it was terrible. Let's see.

I still remember that one night I got ruined.

Well, you sat at brick and port was it brick and Porter for an hour? No, no, no, it's smoky bones.

No, no, that was that this? No, this that was actually that was right. Well, I guess that was still doing the pandemic. No, I'm talking about back when Uber Eats just came to town. Yeah. And I'm fucking idiot at the time. Right. It was a it was 115 in the morning, right? And I'm downtown. And up comes an order from I forget the name of the place, but it's that that kind of a it's a restaurant all the drunk people would eat after to Amanda's mana. Thank you. Exactly. I've come somebody from manners. They somebody had ordered a burrito right? Fucking all the way out east town. Right? To terrible. No, but here, it's 115 in the morning. Now I gotta wait 15 minutes to get the stupid burrito. And then drive all the way out to East town. Yeah. And it was after to a car before it was done and silt on it. Right? Yeah. And like, Okay, I'm never doing that again.

Yeah, that is joint at 115 is probably pretty it was.

It was stupid. But again, I was I didn't know anything. And yeah, I should I shouldn't have done it. So

reviews and how to says I've added extra tip on dirt as you can just chat within the source support and request it. But why should I have to chat with support, I should be able to do what I want in my own receipt.

And how many would do that? That's the biggest thing, right? They people will follow the features that that's given to them. And that's

the easiest, loss resistant if I gotta reach out to support I'm like, Yeah, I guess as a gig worker, I might do that. But I'm like, that's a pain in the ass.

Most people are gonna say no, it's not that important. Yeah.

Because I'll never see this guy again. Oh, my gosh. So he also points out there's evidence consumers are increasingly taking rides and ordering foods from the same platform. This is where it's might be good for DoorDash and Lyft. To go ahead. Yep. He says that users relying on both services account for 46% of Ubers bookings while 50% 6% of grab customers, I don't know what that as must be a food delivery platform, use more than one of its services. And he says that consumers who use both rides and delivery spend 75% more on average than the single platform users. Which makes sense. It's like what Facebook's goal is to keep you in Facebook all as much as they can. So this keep adding services

Facebook seriously sucks lately, though,

lately?

I don't even know. It's terrible. Yeah, terrible.

Well, what do you guys think in the chat yea or nay on the

on the merger and the merger? I go with ne ne, I think it's gonna be bad. See, it's because it's just one less competitor in the market. So it's just now we the bid. In my mind, the big benefit for gig workers is to get as many as possible companies out there Yeah. Because so now it's only one company is the same thing about we always talked about having many buckets. What happens if you get if you get kicked off the platform? Now you'd have to pet from not just one?

Yeah, in theory, but they almost they run almost separate anyways, though, even though Uber Eats and Uber rides are in the same app. They still I don't run both of them ever at the same time. Does that make sense? So I don't run rides and eat at the same time. So essentially, but

for now What happens if your Uber driver account gets deactivated? Now you can't drive? That's

not necessarily true. I mean, what would you if you got deactivated for a mask? They're not going to deactivate your food account? Why would they do that? Because you don't have to have a mask on in the car. But

isn't it the same account?

It is. So I think they just take I mean, I'm guessing that they just take the ride power off your platform off your app. I mean, you could be right to but I guess my point is, that's why I'm not so negative about the merger, because I would run Lyft and DoorDash at different times anyways, so it doesn't really bother me. And I almost look at maybe live would bring a little bit more transparency into the gig world. kind of tell DoorDash Hey, you guys need to be a little nicer. You need to you know, I don't know not that lifts been the nicest in the gay community. But I feel like they've been the least amount of assholes. Shut up, John, you don't know. Don't be don't be doing this.

Thanks, John, for agreeing with me.

John. Everyone agrees with

Yes. For them the best looking? Of

course, that's Wow. Yeah, that's true.

All right, when talk about Middleton technology, so many Middleton tech, develop drivers, utility helper Maximo, and flexibler is their automation apps for those platforms like DoorDash, UberEATS, GrubHub, Uber, Lyft, all of them. And de drive utility Hopper only works with DoorDash maximum works with UberEATS Lyft, blah, blah, the rest of them, but you make more money and you drive safer. I mean, I know Gary wants me to post the drive safer, which I appreciate. But let's be frank, people want to make more money, too. And I think that's a huge thing. The link is in our description, unfortunately, is only for Android at this point. But I mean, really, if you're a full time gig worker, honestly, I mean, maybe even part time 2030 hours a week, you should be running two phones anyways.

I mean, it was because you kind of phone you got an Android phone. Yeah,

I only use it for gig work. I shut it off in the summer, when I'm not doing gig work. So check it out. We'd appreciate it. If you click on that link, download it, just try it out. If it's for you, great. If it's not, you know, send the feedback to me. What don't you like about it what you like about it? You can automate everything by auto accept auto decline set parameters as far how far you want to drive. It's incredible. So thank you, Gary, for believing in us to spread your word.

Thank you so much, Gary. Oh, mad disrespect for that. Dammit.

I didn't play what's wrong with my board tonight? I'm hitting it. Oh, no, that's the wrong one. There we go. Cheese was our first first podcast

mad disrespectful. There we go.

Yes, spur?

Yes. You're up.

Okay, so you should show it. So basically, been out for 10 seconds. Because you have me switch back and forth. You can now choose how you want to earn either earned by order and per order. You will learn a while you can read it by your lease, the amount shown or farm for delivery. As always, you get 100. No, your customer tip. Yeah. Okay. Are you going to invite time? Which is $14 an hour? Plus 100% of customer tips. I like how they you know, they state you get 100%?

Yeah. Well, it's interesting, though, that you're going to earn 14 plus 100%.

Now it says If you decline two orders in one hour, your test will end. Yeah. But I guess the point there is, is maybe that's their way of getting all the orders. Nobody wants to deliver delivered.

Yes. Yeah. So that's what I was thinking. I was like, Is this doesn't make sense.

But who would do this for $14 an hour? And I know you get the tip, I guess

allegedly. But actually, if I get the tips plus 14, I'll do it. Yeah,

but you don't you're not getting cheap tips, though. That's true. That's true. You know, I mean, it's just gonna make you take all the $3 and treat on our tip. So $3 for delivery tips. Yeah. Oh, hang on. I get all the $3 per order deliveries. Yes.

There we go. Yeah, no, it's hard. You're right. Now that I think about it, I forget that. Yeah, you'll start to take those poverty. Right, right. So where would the hourly be for you? That would be worth you.

I was always aiming at $25 an hour when I was driving. Yeah,

but you're driving during peak times. Let's say you're driving for lunch crowd on a Wednesday. Would you be happy with 20? I would.

No, I don't think no, no, you boozy bitch. Well, it's just when I'm out driving. When I look at what is worth me not spending time with my family. Yeah, that's fair, you know? And it's just 20 is too little.

Yeah, I mean, you got to look at it though. Like as your full time gig worker, like, surely in your job at home, you're gonna make more than $20 an hour to be away from your family. But I don't know. Yeah, I would do it for 20. But I would have to be more on the weekend. So what? Yeah, you

want to get the hourly rate on your say that did it? Well, but I mean, is it doesn't show the fine print. Well, that

that's even the worst. So you only so so in between time you don't get paid? Well, that's even a double SCREW YOU who would do that? I mean, my gosh. Hey, thanks for reviews and how tos for the Super Chat. I believe. I appreciate that. Look at you say just found us, y'all. And he has been binging on the podcast on the road. Great content. Well, thank you so much. super appreciate

100 episodes for you to pin John's on dreads.

Yeah, not? Yeah, we got the bonus ones. And so we're probably at like 150 At this point,

and you become a patreon. You get some of the good content first. Yeah. And

you see Esper with no pants on.

You don't believe me? You don't nobody want to pay for

that. That's true. I would.

Can we change something, please?

All right, we're moving into what are we doing? Oh, so I don't know a ton about this. I highlight a few things. Because we talked about it. The New York taxi cabs kind of making a deal with Uber. Yep. So this is kind of the same thing. Basically, it's a Uber flywheel technologies deal with taxi and partnership. Uber stock pops 6%. during Tuesday's trading session as the ride hailing giant reportedly nearing a deal with Flywheel technologies to add taxis to the Uber app in San Francisco. I don't understand the fly wheel technologies. Is that just like a third party that's working with them or what? I don't know a lot about that?

I don't know, either. I don't need to be I just I wonder if you heard about it? Well, I mean, the idea is that, at least when we read it last time is it adds to taxi cabs to the platform. Right? So yeah, so when you are driving, sorry, if you are requesting a ride, you can you can pick to get a get a cab, a yellow cab, right? Instead of just a regular Uber. Uber Black, you can get a good look.

Yeah. I noticed despite opposition San Francisco approved a pilot program last year that allows consumers to see taxi fares up front. So similar to Uber and Lyft. What I don't understand at all this is when I talked about it with Steve, that the rates were going to be the same for a Yellow Taxi or an Uber, like when a consumer looked at the app

can be though. No, it was.

That's what he said.

Steve said, See,

we talked about it. Thanks, Steve. Steve from right to rodeo. Why are you laughing like that?

You don't know. I mean, I mean, Steve, no, no, I mean, I'm just joking. You know, it's tough.

What's interesting in this article,

but it's not the same, right? It's not the same rate, or if you pick an Hoopoe bag, so we're back. Why wouldn't it be a different rate? Well, I think the

Uber the ELO cat, it's the same rate as an Uber X. Now, why would you pay more for a new one? Who in their right mind as a consumer would look at that and go, I'm gonna pay more for this Yellow Taxi. Like, taxis are gross. They don't keep their cars clean, like we keep ours clean, because it's our personal vehicles. Like, why would you pay more for taxi on the Uber platform?

I think there's a continent as a concept sent out their conception. I can't dispel those. Those if you will, yeah, that that caps are better and safer, right?

Not anymore. They were early on when Uber and Lyft came around, but I don't think anymore. I don't think that even I don't think they are but while we're also in the biz, too, so Uber, which has been slammed by driving shorter suits and soaring gas prices has emphasized that it has more drivers in the US now than any other point during the current Coronavirus pandemic. I, I question that because I'm watching like gay bow and Ypsilanti. And even a couple of people in Grand Rapids and even Matt Davis. They're making bank like the numbers are good. So I'm thinking that drivers are out there. I think they're just busier now because or that these guys are making bank because there's not as many drivers out there but

well, again. So his is a special area. His is not a particular big metro I think that the

gate, but he can go anywhere.

No, no he can but he's in Ypsilanti. Yeah, so So I think I think that the the, the article in question is talking specifically about big metros like LA and New York and you know, the big cities will probably have tons of cars. Yeah.

Anyways, yeah, I noticed some of these guys that post their earnings though they never show what their promotions were and I don't know why like it's still considered earnings. You shouldn't feel bad to hide the promotions like you're still getting the money you hustled you pick the right promotion, and you got it. But yeah, some of these guys are 30, you know, 25 hours a week making a grand in our market.

So by knowing nothing wrong with that, I thought

the stat was interesting to in the last three months of 2021, Uber passengers took 1.7 7 billion trips, or approximately 19 million trips per day on average. That's nuts. 19 million,

but then it would be very interesting to see compare that to how many drivers is because that's in the American market, right?

It didn't it didn't say no, my guess is maybe this that was probably the entire world. But still,

it'd be nice to see then how many drivers was covering those 19 million rides?

That's crazy. I mean, very crazy. All right, moving on, moving forward, moving on. More than 50 Gig workers have been killed while work in the US in 2017. The Verge?

Yep. That's mine. Yep. There's no video on that. All right. Correct. So basically, their own article is that it's talking about how many, you know, more than 50 Gig workers have been killed while working in the US since 2017. And basically, this is just talking about how the fact that, you know, if you're a gig worker, it's actually pretty dangerous. So talk us out of the article is times out by talking about a woman, Isabella Lewis? Who was driving Lyft on a Sunday in Plano, Texas, and she was carjacked and killed by her passengers. So, and again. Yeah, obviously, we saw we saw an episode earlier today where the same happened. Right. And, and she was killed. Yeah. So again, it's difficult to date. However, her family says, Oh, yeah. So it goes on to then talk about how lifts quite often. And all the platforms in general, quite quite often don't really have a good way of communicating with the victims. No. And that that's really the big focus on of the article is yes, it's dangerous. But then also the platform's doesn't really seem to support the family much afterwards. Yeah. Unless, I guess, I mean, I can think of a couple of times where things have happened. And I think maybe it's been because they have caught the incident. It's caught has caught viral. Yeah. And lots of interests, you know, in the media, and then the platform steps out with the Okay, we better go do something about it. Yeah. But obviously, there has been lots of lots of examples where not, you know, not happened. And basically, in this case, the first case here, yeah, somebody did try to call but it was based, it was lifted. And sure, we'll try to get a hold to see if they were gonna have to fix it. Fix the damaged windshield and clean up applied as right or rights. Not very nice. I'm having to do a GoFundMe campaign to just cover her funeral service. So which is not I mean, live should have stepped up. Yeah, absolutely.

I feel like these companies hide and run. They're like, Oh, we're a technology company. We don't really care. Which if they should do the other thing. They should be awesome with these when shit like this happens, because it just

feels like it would be. I hate to I mean, I mean, no disrespect right now. But it feels like it would be a cheap way of collecting goodwill. Yeah. Because it's not, I mean, to them to give $10,000 for funeral service, or whatever it is, that would be a drop in the bucket, right? I mean, and you can buy that cable and kind of press? Well,

it's like I'm thinking about it. Now we'd be talking about it. Either way. We're talking about this saloon or if you did, if you did that. So why not do the right thing instead of us talking about how you try to skirt the system, ABS or skirt the victim or whatever, you want to do

the right thing for the right reason? Yeah, no, I agree. I agree. Okay, so the report found the people so the article is talking about a report that's been made about this found that 60% of the app base workers killed in the past five years were people of color even though they come they composed less than 40% of the US workforce. So obviously, drawing during this that is that is more dangerous to be Be a person of color do work in the gig work. So the numbers in the report are consistent with the limited self reporting from individual platforms and community safety report from 2021 live report a 10 fatal attacks against drivers from 17 to 19. And 19. Uber reported 19 fatal attacks over the preceding two years. Yeah. But again, and then it just goes on talking about the same thing. Basically, yes, these things happen. And very rarely does the platform's do anything to even help or do any kind of stuff to support the family member even though that they claim they do? Yeah,

I think the same thing kind of applies for people that maybe the assaulted, you know, we're talking about deaths, but what about all the other stuff sexual assault, short, that kind of stuff that they go by and don't really support the victims and stuff? It's crazy.

So the question one thing that men one time they mentioned in the app, they're talking about the whole thing that the again, go go to the thing that always comes up is, well, we individual contract workers, we're not, you know, w two workers, we're not employees, and we don't get all the support. We don't get all the you know, the safety net or whatever. Okay, but that's fine. We are not controversial, but I feel like there's a difference here. Right. I feel like that. We also human beings,

yeah, like do the right thing as a human.

Yeah, we do. And so they should, too, right. Yeah, the platform is should do the right thing, too. And so it's no longer is no longer a question about whether or not we are employees, or we are, you know, w two workers are 1099 workers, right. Well, you own your turn. I know we can. No, no, that's bullshit.

Well, they use that as their advantage when they don't want it.

They absolutely do. Yeah, absolutely. But that's, that's, I mean, that's the whole that's the whole karma. Right. It's gonna come back to you.

Yeah. Because we were talking shit about you,

right.

Hey, Steve, thank you so much for the 999 Super Chat. Love you both.

Thank you so much. The Hey,

we got a little thing we had we had a $5 one nine $10 One who's gonna go above 10? Who's gonna go above 10? Going once. All right. Thank

you so much for all your love tonight. Guys. This is great. It's great to be back.

It is. Well, I wouldn't didn't leave but it's so great to be back. I never leave.

I never leave. Here's a tip from DoorDash. Take bag. Oh, thanks for clarifying you. For listeners. on audio. It's a bag of pennies. I don't see any silver in there whatsoever. But there's a piece of tape. This is DoorDash chip take bag. What you think I'm going to open it up and take four pennies and then leave the rest for the next driver. I mean, there's probably like $1 in there if that? Not even No, I mean, how many pennies in $1? Yes, for 100 Good job. Yeah, can we do we did do a little math there. So hey, guys, we have a new sponsor, DVD deliveries driver Incorporated. So basically this company helps you with taxes and human resources and all that stuff. Connects DDI, deliver DDI connects businesses with independent contractor delivery drivers, those part time or full time drivers work with specific companies and industries that span restaurant delivery, courier delivery, grocery delivery, and many many more. So basically, you can use them as your human resources, right taxes, insurance, all that stuff. And this is the company that you go through to get on Walmart spark, and they also have a bunch of other companies so go ahead and click on the link you can sign up as a driver and then you can find if there's opportunities in your area I know John from California there was no Walmart spark but anyone else listening in the area you should check it out link is in the description.

And also they don't necessarily they have a lot of natural unknown you know delivery partners there those jobs there that you may not know about? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. So this there's many ways of doing you know, new buckets and this is definitely one of those ways of adding a bucket to to pocket income to your to your portfolio of people you're working for

Yeah, when we interviewed Aaron the CEO I found out about well about I'm sorry.

This is great. Thank you.

Yeah, I found out about Spark through him and I I sent recruited an account and they basically hired me so yeah. DDI they're the spark middleman. Yes, they are the spark middleman and I think that's their biggest client is Walmart. But sure, yeah, check it out. Might be might be

worth it. Obviously. The other benefit as you mentioned, too, is they do they do offer up a bunch of other services, including the tech service. And they offer up some incentive programs as well. Yeah for for Have the rideshare drivers. So basically, they just want to be, they want to be there to help you all the stuff you don't get, you know, support as as as you don't have an in a normal having a normal employee relationship. So

yeah, it's definitely something that you should check out. Even if it's just to the point of, you know, becoming a Walmart driver. I was looking at Hold on, they have health insurance, they have pet insurance, they have a dash cam driver app, I guess and a tactics discount a mileage tracker, vehicle maintenance, like they have a whole bunch of stuff is when you sign up to be a driver. So check them out. Oh, you guys, John. He said, stop being so stingy. Steve did send out. And then Steve raised some two bucks. But Steve, you don't get top of the Super Chat unless you'd go $10.01 So I'm just saying. Just saying. I'm kidding. Stop it. You too. All right. Stop it. All right. Yes, we're gonna check out this amazing tip that this customer got.

Oh, yeah. Congratulations, Andre. Andre, Andre B. Andre $300. You have received a tip

so this has been going around here's a letter late this week he if you took a trip we accidentally showed your tip 100 times higher than it actually was. This happened because our system error what has been fixed. During this time your trip history Trooper seat and wallet show the correct tip amount. You also paid the correct tip amounts from your customers. The high tip shown must have been exciting. So we're sorry for any confusion. This may have caused Uber team.

Right. So I actually saw quite a few people posting. Posting so it wasn't just a little glitch. It was pretty widely.

How do you screw up a decimal? Like I don't understand I

saw somebody posting $1,000 Yeah,

like can you tell me as a coder how that even happens?

Well, there's many reasons why you miss count do the do a programming Miss miscalculating the tip I mean, that's yeah,

it's just like someone entered a button wrong and then update you know, when we put stuff on our website, you're like, alright, you don't ready okay, post

what it is, it's when they when they met when they when this show when this show the label Walmart disaster, that that number has to be calculated into a string to be made into a currency string. And so whoever did that, who set up the to change the current string? Made a boo boo.

I love it. How you laughing for you explained it because we're like,

Well, I don't know. Yeah, if you're gonna trying to get fired, there you go.

Right. But is it as simple as like when they created that string? They they put a decimal in the wrong spot? Well,

you have to you have to tell it how to reformat the string. Okay, so he made a mistake when he told him how to format the string. Okay, you know, so it's that sweet

Jesus. Oh, yeah. I mean, there was a couple of crazy ones. But I wouldn't be I mean, it's possible you could get a $300 tip although I think Uber limits the amount you can tip don't pay with the certain percentage of the riders. I think it's only

in certain markets. Okay, do that. I don't know.

Every app is different. So yeah.

What is the what is the largest you gotta have you have ever gotten in tip? Not cash too bumpy?

Oh, gosh. I don't know. Yeah, I would say probably less than 50 bucks on the app. I've definitely got some hundreds on the wood cash.

I think the larger I've gotten on the app is 20 bucks. But 20 bucks, but I've gotten you know, I've gotten 50s and 102 once.

John did I say Jesus, Jenny? I do say that. I don't know where that's from. You ever have sayings? He says adult and you're like, I don't know where I got that from, but I say it. Jesus, Jenny. All right. Couple more things that were out of here. I thought this was funny. To Text. This is your GrubHub driver. Ariana Pizza Hut cannot honor your quest at four pounds of pepperoni on one personal pie. He says that's fine, Ariana, but let them know the name of the man who out Pizza Hut. I mean, it's probably fake. But it's still funny.

It's definitely fake. Here

is something real quick. It's gonna jump into yes, we're DoorDash math. I saw somebody post this. How they track their mileage which you should track your mileage with hurdler which link is in description. But this guy literally every, like 330 4.5 Miles ending location put the address in purpose of this trip pick up 349 7.2 Miles starting location. I mean, I'm not kidding. Yeah, that's fucking crazy. Why would you do that? that oh my god I don't know if it was true or not, but he got so much shit on the group's it's like, I kind of felt bad for him I'm like man, why did you post that?

Oh my god like two months time Yeah,

I mean I appreciate you tracking it because there's still dumb asses out there that I see now. Hey I don't have my mileage and I can't get it from your dad or your folks or

do you think

who what what tax person is gonna want to see that shit anyways?

You know what I do? I figured out my mileage and I tell them them out I don't that's all I do right he doesn't look at my my stuff my

spreadsheet you know this is more if somebody comes in want to see it you know, review it after all like

like an audit or something. The IRS guy is gonna like you're fine asshole like I'm done like it's fine here. Here's your

I used to take the number from Uber. And then I added 15 Wasn't really Oh yeah, because they never they never count they Uber doesn't count the in between ride for sure.

So I keep track of it. Usually twice. Today I keep track of it with an app with hurdler, so I mean, I don't even need to do that when John says everlands I mean there's ton of them out there. hurdler offers more features in the premium like

you used to Lincoln. Yes, please.

Hey, we got to get paid. $10 is the highest tip who's going higher? I'm just saying. Steve's like you asshole. All right. So this is interesting. I know we're running a little over but I wanted to play this video. It's about dog safety. So we're gonna play that real quick. And then it's about one it's about 90 seconds so then we'll discuss

the description about this young woman coming out to get her packages after the you know Amazon driver goes by sees a stray dog out let's listen into the audio from the cat. I don't know why it's glitchy.

Not mine but. A badass

before he says that the dog was picked up by animal control a little bit later, no serious injuries. The Amazon driver has been lauded for this and we get to think about some lessons. Good grief. If this isn't an argument to have an OC spray on your person. I don't know what is their 12 bucks guys go either on Amazon or I'll put a link in the description to pom and go get one of their canisters and keep it on you to give this dog the hot sauce and not put yourself in danger lesson time.

Anyways, so there's there's a couple of things. I love that that Amazon driver just like she's dealt with a bunch of dogs. You can see she's like, get up. Get out, get out of bed. You're a bad dog. I'm like she's a badass. I love that. She jumped into that. What are your thoughts about that? I know John, not John crisp was too much to actually share that in the group. He's been bitten by a dog with a food delivery before so I know he does carry spray now too, but that's a scary situation. It looks like that dog was fine. But when that other dog was there her dog right. Lost his shift. So

actually very interestingly enough, we have two dogs. Yeah, and Penny our older dog has recently ever since we added all the dog into the mix. Yeah, she goes crazy bananas when Windows a third dog coming into it, but only when waffles was there. And you're saying so when she's alone with your dog? It's fine, huh? But the moment waffles get into the mix, she goes crazy bananas. I mean really see what aggressive really aggressive smiles wow I know it's how

do you get a third dog in the mix? Like if you're walking over somewhere we take

him to the dog park fine. If I take both the dogs I cannot get Botox. Oh wow. It was absolutely crazy. That's interesting. So I don't know why that is. But it's just one of those things. So yeah, I I was trying to sit and put myself in her situation and I think I would have done the exact same thing I would have got down and say hi to the dog because you is a cutie and Zara? Yeah, I think she handled everything correct she lifted up the little dog got the little dog I might have kicked the other dog.

Yeah, there wasn't enough kicking involved because I she was trying to block it with your hand. I'm like no, that's the last thing you kicked

that doggy bows might if the die little dog was mine, I might have kicked.

Yeah. Larry says no one's going to have their pepper spray on them when they go to pick up a package. Yeah, I get that it's more talking about the Amazon driver and as a gig was gonna say she might have had had pepper spray Yeah, I mean I don't but reviews and how to says my Flex routes in rural Oklahoma are crazy with all the free days range doc. Man Amazon is scary because like when you're getting food delivery people are expecting it. Right? People aren't expecting I mean, they are expecting Amazon packages, but they don't ever know when they're going to come. So dogs are crazy on on package delivery routes. It's it's good. I've gotten to the point where I've like driven up to as close as I could get and just chucked it in took a picture from the window. I'm not getting bid like, yeah, that see that was crazy about that dog. He was fine with people. But when he saw another dog, he's like,

I'm buying it. So.

And this last Tiktok it's too close with it's kind of random, but we'll just play it since I have it. Okay,

gotcha. thought it's a good idea to steal the tip jar from our small shop when all her info is what's your dad? It is true though.

packaging it up. There's a tip jar right there.

At least he's got a bag.

Whoever doesn't deliver

the bag is a savage. Sweet time. While she's waiting for the person to walk away. Yeah. And Eric goes into the bag. She jams the food in there.

Upside down.

Water hell.

Anyways, that that's terrible. But like you're gonna get caught to like they know who picked that up. And how do they people know that there's no cameras there? For what?

Doesn't even matter, right? People are just stupid.

Right? Like there's cameras everywhere. What are you doing?

Right? Exactly. Anyways,

and yeah. Why are you stealing from the store?

Right piece of crap. But anyways, if you want to do your miles on a piece of paper, we'll send you a piece of paper free of charge. By

the way. I was just like, Oh, are you are you could sign up for DVI or hurdler? Yeah,

I mean, we got we got we got sponsors coming out our ass and I love every bit of I'm pulling that video. Oh my

gosh. Oh, my God.

JOHNSON I still have restaurants asking me to confirm the order. Yeah, I have some that say that too. But most of them are like, easy easy. Larry got the spit take Yeah, that was pretty good. Anyways, guys, I appreciate y'all listening and tuning in tonight. We'll see in a couple of weeks.

Thank you so much, guys. Good to be back. Bye Bye.

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No, it was not it was like close to an hour. I know. I think it is. So then a little bit and and there's always a mistake and and to it tonight. You know, it was not episode 107 is one episode 108. But hey, we only hear

who's who's counting. No one's counting.

Except when we get to 100 episodes. Then we celebrate. So now he's gonna be 200th episode, right? Yeah.

Did we even say Oh, we did celebrate 100 That

gave give away money and stuff. I'm an idiot.

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So I thought that was me. I mean, I know I did last time but I thought that was oh, we only just you and I swapped. Alright,

that's fine. I'm not gonna say no. Maybe I'll maybe we won't come on. We

could we could do that. But we need to get back on normal schedule. Yeah, we do. So we can both be on but either way. It's a good time to talk to. What's the name again?

The name of the show. Oh, the guy he's in town. I wish Bill como Yeah. Where

are you spill?

He apparently picked up a regular job. I don't know why. And so he's been doing some training. He's working for a school system.

I guess I'm talking about Yeah, he's no, he was all into trains.

He loves trains. He's still doing his train podcast, but you can check everything out at TNC Radio dot live. That seems we can't.

We can't go beyond Steve because it's gonna be way too boring to listen to us.

was Steve will shut the hell up for 10 seconds. Maybe we could talk.

Oh, hey, right. Lisa, how you doing tonight?

Oh my gosh. All right.

Moving on, I just want to talk about Irvine's auto repair Grand Rapids hybrid and EV before we get into our stories 532 6600 Or you can schedule online Irvine's dot com I drove by the other day the construction is looking great. They're like almost more than doubling their space. So it's gonna be super cool to see that's awesome. So if you ever need your car repair and oil change, any kind of fluid work anything like that any diagnostics, go to irvine.com and schedule that or call them fire three. To 6600 You can talk to Jamie or Meghan or Bruce. And of course when you call them and say hey, I was recommended, and they'll say by WHO and you say the gig economy podcast

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say something then you stop

stop myself so

anyways yes we're any stories from the road

we're no stars from the road but you know I do I do. I had this little trip that I had to go on I calculated I traveled about 13,000 miles in seven days which was kind of rough found out the hard way that we do not like a lot of layover as my family but but next time we go we have no Leo was it that's kind of Oh, wow, we drive to Chicago and then it's a direct flight from Chicago to Copenhagen. So it's gonna be nice.

Well, how long have a flight that is? Still only nine hours from Chicago to

really yep Chicago to Copenhagen nine hours.

Here's here's a dumb question here for you know, we don't talk about math or geography. So which way around the world do they go? Do they go east? They find East

Well, yeah, they're fine. Yeah. Okay. You fly over you know over you know, Boston or the East Coast. Okay.

Yes over I forgot I forget what that body of water is in the middle. But yes, they fly east and then over a waltz Atlantic Ocean, Britain and then yeah,

okay. In my head. I was thinking they were either gonna go south or north, but I'm an idiot. So

why would they go? Oh, we're gonna fly over the South Pole. That sounds like a good idea.

John says we all want to know what it felt like having Knob Creek delivered to you at a JC Penney's.

So it was not Knob Creek but yeah, it was no they did not. It was not not it was he did not deliver. What was it? He delivered a bottle of well, what is it that it's the local the Traverse? Traverse City? Yeah.

Oh, so that's funny. I put that in as a substitute. But it didn't say he substituted

okay. Yeah, no. So he wasn't it was a travel CD, which is still fine. Love that. Yeah. Oh, so. But yeah, so that was the one he delivered tow. So it was actually it was fun. It was fun. And I thought it was you know, had my hat's off to the guy. He he did he went above and beyond and I must admit, I may have tipped him a little bit as well. You did yeah. You know how much I tipped I heard afterwards but I tipped him five as well. I just Okay, so nothing too crazy. But he went above and beyond so it just that was that was made like

100 bucks on that bottle. I just felt so bad. I'm like, I when I and you all heard the story, but when I call the Esper I'm like Yes. For you never leave the house and both you and your wife are gone. Like how is this even possible?

So what we had to go shop for, for the for the suits?

Totally. I totally get it. But it just in my head. I'm like, oh, he'll be home on Saturday. It'll be fine. Like, man,

it's fine. Again, I just I was impressed that he took the trip. I don't know if you shared this part of the story. But you put the wrong items in first, right? Oh, yeah. So first you in here. And then he went to my house and then went back kids? JC?

Yeah. So I ended up actually forgot about the story when we were recording with even John. And then at the end, it just hit me. So the story doesn't even happen till the end of the podcast. And I was like, oh, that's one. I have a story. So it was fun. It was it was a good experience. And I hope he listened to the show. I told him I actually promote us. I was like, Hey, I'm a gig worker, too. You should check out the gig economy podcast on there. So

again, just super impressed. As far as airline obviously that's the same you still have to wear that mask all the way we flew delta over there, which was fine. We flew Air France back which was way better. Yeah, a lot fancier if just better. It's better quality food. It's just better seats. It's just it's just better. So you know, but that was fine. And then when we fly this summer we're going to fly with with Sal so Scandinavian Airlines. So hopefully they'll really find some that flies out of Chicago. Yes, they do. And then And just before we left off we also got a delivery of cupcakes and cookies and thank you so much guys. It is just it's just amazing to be a part of this community that is kind of just Yeah, support you in that way when something like this happened. So I just I cannot I cannot thank you guys enough. That was really special. My family obviously loved it as well. And sorry, I thank you very much for that.

Yeah, I mean, nothing. Nothing helps your sadness, like cupcakes or cookies.

I know right? I'm like I sugar sugar on whiskey.

I mean, I exclusively when I'm I'm trying to care for somebody I exclusive loose and cookies by design because like, who sends flowers like okay, I love flowers. I grow my own I plant them outside but I if I'm sad and bummed out I want to cookies. Just for everyone listening if I'm sad or bummed out, send me that it'll make me feel better. Well, we're glad that you're back. We're glad everyone's safe and home and back into the swing of things again. Yeah, it was. It was tough having you gone actually, my other friend was gone out of the country too at the same time, so both my best friends were literally out of the country on the other side of the world. So

we had to get away from you can't find the button.

Play? There we go. Anyways, alright, so we have a lot to talk about. Tonight, we're going to talk about some dashcam video, the release of a murdered Pennsylvania Uber driver driver got robbed a bunch of stuff. So we're gonna jump right into it. And this just kind of shows some dashcam footage of this driver that had happened in February. So we'll kind of look at it and it's very short and then we'll kind of talk about it

should do video serving as evidence in the murder of a Pennsylvania Uber driver and we want to warn you this may be hard to watch. Allegheny County Police say the man in the back is the suspect Calvin crew you see crew get in the back of Christie's mkuze is Uber. This was back in February the video released by the Court yesterday. Less than 20 minutes into the ride. Police a crew pulled out a gun and pressed it to the back of spicuzza his head as she pleaded with him.

Come on man. I got a family what are you doing? What are you doing? Please stop the cornice for cans water you doing our

detectives say crewmates because I drive for an hour while going through a banking haps. Before killing her. The trial for cabin crew got underway yesterday.

We have a second, there we go. So that's sad. Interesting that she had a dashcam he turned it off. So the ride actually was an hour longer after that. And it's like why did you even kill her? Like you could? I don't understand. I don't even understand the motive. I didn't I watched some follow up videos. But it's good that she had a dashcam at least that point that probably really caught him because of that dash cam. But man, it's tough. Like Larry says, Good point. That could be any of us. Yeah, she just randomly you know, just picking up people. And I don't know, we're going to talk about a little bit later an article about what was what's the time if more than 50 Gig workers have been killed at work in the US

the danger of working gig, right?

Yeah, yep. I mean, you hate to say the odds doesn't seem that bad 50 Out of how many drivers and but it's still, it's just most of them are just random. It's not even like that's the scary part. Like Larry said, you know, it could be any one of us. It's not like premeditated. That's the weird part.

One. One thing I was thinking about like and we'll talk about later, but one thing I was thinking about earlier was like climbing diving and granite, but it was never something that crossed my mind.

Really? No, never. You never safety never crossed your mind. Well, it

did. But I never felt unsafe. Oh, that's never felt unsafe.

Yeah, I can say a few. I was like, I don't know. They're quiet. They're sitting right behind me. No one's talking. That's uh, it was

one I was uncomfortable with. But every other word was MF. Oh,

well, you should be used it with me.

But um, yeah. I need I need the buttons over here.

No, we're not giving you your own button.

I want buttons.

That's super dangerous. So yeah, I mean, just be safe, y'all. We're going to talk even some more safety later on. But yeah, it's just one of those things, man, you just got to be aware. But yeah, I don't think that she could have done anything different. I mean, what do you do?

Well, and the only thing did was you could have done was stay home, but then she doesn't make any money. Right?

Yeah. But then the question is, should she have a weapon on her? Or Should she jump out of the car while it's moving? Like every

Right, right. But in this situation, do you think she would have been able to use the weapon successfully? I mean, that's the thing. Right? It's like, it's how, how is she able to do that?

Yeah, you got it in that situation? You got to be really trained in that weapon to use it efficiently to in that position, because you're basically if you're doing it, you're drawing and then you have to somehow turn around. I mean, even if you're right handed, like how do you you would have to put it in your left hand and yeah, it's just weird.

No, yeah. Yeah. So do I agree that there are certain instances where we be nice to have a some kind of a weapon to protect yourself? Sure. I can see, I don't even know. But it's just I don't even know if I would know how to use it in this situation.

Yeah. Larry said about the only thing she could have done was to crash the car. Hmm. I never even thought about that. See, we were like armchair quarterbacks over here because we don't know and that when you're in that tense situation, you don't think straight?

No. So no, let's do that. But then again, maybe I actually not a bad idea. Larry right. Because if she was wearing a seatbelt he obviously was not. Yeah, so speed up and then break. I mean, who thinks about that, but

still, you're going 90 miles an hour? I mean, right? That you're gonna hurt yourself too.

But well, yes, but you won't die.

Hopefully, maybe do it at like 60 Let's let's let's take the wall at 60 Not not 70 But yeah, that sucks. All right, moving on. This is a what is this? Yes. For you. I was gonna promo it. Yeah, I

just I forget. Just play it.

Oh, sorry. I was reading a text. Yeah,

just play this is a tape talking about God being robbed. God Rob doing UberX tonight. First and last time in the Bronx

Victoria Listen, is this a nice call? You know, I'm not gonna lie, bro. Like usually I don't let people send a fine but I felt but we're serious, serious causes. I'm Scott time we're big money. God said I could touch was like, yo, yo thing and this is fine. This is this is someone need I'm not gonna lie. Like, honestly, this is something on me. So I'm gonna need you to like give me everything. But like I'm not gonna lie. Don't pass this red light because I'm gonna eat everything. No, like, show me your series. pockets while I need that. I need that. I need that. Filming make make sure this idea isn't here for me because let you try to do anything like the college is over. Y'all. Come on, bro. You're not too good. The ideas here? Yeah.

Yo,

yo, what the hell just happened, bro.

What do you think about that? I read some comments that people thought it was fake. I

was gonna say it kind of feels a little fake. Kind of feels a little fake.

I let you watch it during the pre show and I wasn't gonna bring it up. But no,

it'd be put here's the thing. He wasn't showing any weapon or nothing. Yeah, he was saying I need that. Okay. I mean,

it. What would you do that? Well, if he's not showing a weapon, what would you do to say no.

Get out of my car.

Okay, well, you're just gonna have an argument with it with somebody like that. Well,

I don't know. I don't know that I would give him everything I had. I mean, I don't know it's tough. It's the same thing right and we can be we can sit here we can comment Howard Howard Scott gonna be how it's gonna go right. I don't know.

Hey, hey, Steve from writer rodeo. Its stage just like the Will Smith Chris Rock slap.

Now on week four we shouldn't get into because it fell states at one point. But all this all this phone all right now?

Yeah. Well, Steve, as Steve has like, sending me I haven't respond to him. Because I pretty I'm leaning towards now it wasn't staged. But early on. It was I was saying it stage. And Steve said it was real. And he was fussy about it. And he was sending me texts about all these different views on the cameras and stuff. So

Well, I mean, the thing if it wasn't for the fallout on will right now. I mean, he's been 10 years he cannot get back into the Yeah,

no, I totally agree. Now it's like, now I agree. But early on, it was it was funny. Steve got real worked up about that. So reviews

and how tos. So yeah, there is somebody sitting the bank. Now again, this is he starts by saying GLORIA So I'm assuming that's the girl sitting in the back. But yeah, but again, she couldn't Yeah, you're right. She couldn't put a gun in the back of the we don't know the video can say that. So that's true. I doubt it. But But again, it's it's one of those I I would hope that I wouldn't just hand over my phone on my pot water, but I can't tell. Maybe I would I don't know.

But yeah, I think I would because then that same might have just been confused because it wasn't how you told the guy did see confused. He definitely did seem confused. But here's the thing too. It's kind of the same situation as, as the gal with a gun like, like are you don't want her to have a weapon because she couldn't use it. But what would you be able to do? Like, what if he said, No, I'm serious. You just gonna keep what? Event?

Let's let's play that well in that situation had I had a gun, then I would have pulled it and say no can oh my god really? Yeah. Because he sat next to me true and I would have had I would have had and again hopefully I would have had the guns I could grab it with one hand one hand. Yeah, and pull it back and say Get the fuck out of my car. Right, right. But again, oh, sorry.

No, you're good. Yeah, it's again, it's always it's always hard to know what to do. But

it certainly is. Again, I was mostly confused because he's talking like, I need that. Okay, then go get a job dude.

Anyways, Lyft is starting to offer 15 minute break. So it says if you need a few minutes to use the restroom or refill your tank during a ride, shriek you can sign out of the Lyft driver app for up to 15 minutes once per ride Street, come back online and still earn your street bonus. So I bring that up because there have been many conversations in the telegram group, which you should join by the way, the link is in the description. About Lyft screwing you over on these Lyft bonuses, and you have to be perfect. And if you screw up a little bit or don't take a ride or whatever. So I just thought it was interesting that Lyft was offering that opportunity for drivers to do that. I don't know. What do you think on that?

Again, I haven't driven left in years, right and literally years, literally years. My first thought was is there really that many streaks that they can't just take a break when the streak is over?

I mean, usually they're three streak rides, but it could still be an hour.

I mean, I was I would easily drive for hours without a break back when I was driving. You didn't

Pete You didn't pee for four hours. No easy.

Oh, I

mean, we all know my bladder. It's like every other ride. That's why you have bottles. Well, exactly. Exactly. I don't need the 15 minute break.

I remember some some of those evening a night where things were just going crazy. I was just right. You're right. You're right. And the adrenaline will keep going. No, I wouldn't get out easily before I was about to write you know, I'm stopping.

Matt says it's a good thing for drivers and there are times rewrites can take 90 minutes. See clearly you don't you must have a bladder very big. Your bladder not the other thing.

But um, but but. Okay, so I can only talk about Greg Abbott's market, right because that's all but has. Has You Ever Have you ever? Has there been times where there's been three or four streaks after each other?

No. Well, yes, there has. But remember, you're only driving during the busy time when they don't have streaks. Oh, no. Yeah, he's streaks are like from two to three in the afternoon where your your rides aren't like coming in hot and fast. But like, I mean, it's just nice with that. They offered that. I mean, it's just a good. You know,

it is it is nice. I just don't know if I think is necessary. But

yeah, it's just a thought. Okay, what else we got Instacart tip baiting protection.

The wonderful life of tip baiting?

I mean, it never happens.

All the time. It happens. You know, I was reading this article earlier. And my first comment to Jason was, they shouldn't just they should not allow them to change the tip ever. Right period. Like, why? Why are they even doing that? I mean, I can see the reasoning for it. Oh, I actually didn't put in $100 I meant to put in 10.

But what about that? What about bad service, though? I mean, what if the driver just throws the groceries in the driveway and drives away? And you tipped him? 50 bucks, they should they be able to get that. But then you gotta have documentation. We all have smartphones, right? Like if the driver did that as much as you can you have to have pictures and or I don't know, it just seems strange. Okay,

so let's get to the article. Okay. So the idea is that they, they are starting a new thing. So they're doing tip protection up to $10. So that Instacart will cover up to $10 If a customer eliminates the tip after delivery without reporting an order problems. There's a big thing right there. Yeah, without reporting an order problem. So once again, the idea is to get rid of the whole tip baiting issue. Right, which I mean, it's a good thing to trying to work out a method to get rid of it, I guess. Yeah, but I just I don't know. I wish there was a better way. Cuz you're right now you mentioned it. Well, what if those bad service Yeah, I wish there was is a better way of doing but again, so I've used it a couple of times I've used some other services. I have never changed my tip afterwards, you know, even when there has been times where it's been lacking, right, interesting. And so maybe instead of doing the change a tip, maybe have a, how would you experience and have a better way for Instacart? Or do you other services? To follow up on that?

Yeah. And yeah, instead of just like, a simple email of like, this happened, okay. Let's talk about it a little bit more, right?

Maybe, maybe the, maybe the shopper and the person receiving it can take a photo of, hey, this is how it was left, or whatever? Well, they

do do that. The shopper does do that. Known as

the shopper. But the person receiving Oh, yeah, so maybe when it's been dropped off, you know, willy nilly on my watch, I can take a photo of and say, Hey, this is what it looks like. Yeah,

for sure. Yeah, most people are most people will easily complain via email. But when you start asking for pictures, a lot of people aren't going to go through all that work to because if they wanted to change their tip, they would have to knock their groceries over or whatever. Not as many people are going to do that. Right. I have a question for you. What do you do you like to pre tip when you're ordering stuff like that? Are you a post tipper?

I'm a pre tipper. But that's you. That's because I know that my pre tip is gonna, it's gonna affect how quickly I get my order. But true, but that but that's only that's only when I order food. So I have a pre temper when I order food. Excuse me, we don't do delivery. We don't do grocery orders that often. No. So no. And honestly, that couple times we've done and we have not been that impressed on, unfortunately. So

yeah, it depends on what us how, how hilarious would it be if you pre tipped at Red Robin. So next time you go to dinner, just drop a 20 down and they'll be like, Alright, there's my tip. It just see what There's your tip. See what she says?

Interesting. I don't know. I don't know. It's not a bad idea.

I mean, it would just be a funny experience. Yeah. Oh, I forgot to tell you this hat is from the rideshare guy.

I was gonna say yeah. It looked like a nice.

Yeah, I got it's sweet. I love it. I got a price on this hat. It's not that expensive.

I'm just saying that you're paying for it.

Yeah, he did. I mean, I mean, you know, it's kind of like I'm a fan. So anyways, this is a cool hat. He's not selling him now. So unfortunately, this is one of a kind

Steve, I didn't get ahead from you. What's up with that? Steve doesn't

even have Steve Do you even have merch?

I'm waiting for him to answer. Beep

beep beep he left. So lift No. laryea said he's preaching. You have the service have a preacher's son. Yeah.

Oh, man. I mean, why? What? I wonder what the

what? So say it's the same concept by so this is one thing that I haven't actually done it yet. But I probably should. So I follow this guy. And what is his name? And I forget he lives in Manhattan. He does a ton of traveling right? Yeah. So every time he tries every time he gets on the fly on a plane, the first thing he does is he always have a bag of candy. Usually m&ms, okay? And he hands it to his stewardess as he walks onto the plane, okay. And it just sets the tone for the student. It sets the tone for the for the flight for him. And instead of people either being like, nasty or whatever, they just nice and smiling. Yeah. And I can see the same happening as I get into the restaurant. If I start by giving them 20 bucks. Here you go. That should tip. Right. Maybe you'll get a better experience from it.

And but I also think that would ruin so I think I've waited tables before and it was always the hunt, right? We talked about when you're doing gig work like how much you're going to make. So you never knew how much you were going to get. So maybe if you gave her a 20 That wouldn't be enough. She'd be like, Oh, I was hoping for 40 or whatever. I

don't know, but I'd be okay, if I was eating at Ruth's Chris maybe I would give more than 20 with

Chris Ruth's. Chris Yeah, you kind of got to estimate what the bill is going to be in your head anyways.

Because otherwise, if it just feels like 5% then you're probably just a doofus. Yeah,

and they will give you terrible service that I've actually heard of people. Now I've never known anyone to do this. But I've read about it that people take like $20 $1 bills, and if the service is starting to get poor, they they take away the money But see, that's just I know you're just kind of manipulating the I would never do that. But no, no, no.

So John says preach him and add more later if the service is good. That's not a good yeah, that's not a bad idea.

Yeah. So although I've had trouble with I used I don't remember I think I think it was on the show. We talked about it with GrubHub. Maybe not this last show, but this Before I tried to go in there and tip more, and there was no opportunity, I couldn't find a way to do it. Once it was done at least, at least on GrubHub. That's typically the only one I use for delivery because the rest of them suck. Even though I do DoorDash more as a worker,

I've done UberEATS a couple of times at the studio, actually, when I went to the work, so did you. Yeah. All right, not too bad eggs. They did a good job. Okay. That's good.

I mean, they're not all

bad. Of course, no, there's bad apples everywhere, but they're the worst.

All right, so we're going to talk to DoorDash and Lyft should merge. And its first when I heard this, and like, oh, man, that it's stupid. That's not a good idea. But as more as I read the article, I'm kind of on board. So I highlighted a few things on here. The CFO of DoorDash said the people that generally become Dashers are very different audience from the types of people that other good companies competes are competing for. On the call bah bah bah added that the recent survey data showed that over 90% of Dassler said they have no plans to drive for rideshare and only 4% say they prefer to drive rideshare compared to food delivery. That was interesting. And of course, this is coming from a survey from DoorDash. So they're gonna right skew it a little bit different. Uber drivers, that boat that do both delivery and rideshare are in one to 5% more than drivers who focus just on rideshare. It didn't used to be that way. No, no, no, no. Yeah, before the pandemic. I mean, Uber. II mean, it was terrible. Let's see.

I still remember that one night I got ruined.

Well, you sat at brick and port was it brick and Porter for an hour? No, no, no, it's smoky bones.

No, no, that was that this? No, this that was actually that was right. Well, I guess that was still doing the pandemic. No, I'm talking about back when Uber Eats just came to town. Yeah. And I'm fucking idiot at the time. Right. It was a it was 115 in the morning, right? And I'm downtown. And up comes an order from I forget the name of the place, but it's that that kind of a it's a restaurant all the drunk people would eat after to Amanda's mana. Thank you. Exactly. I've come somebody from manners. They somebody had ordered a burrito right? Fucking all the way out east town. Right? To terrible. No, but here, it's 115 in the morning. Now I gotta wait 15 minutes to get the stupid burrito. And then drive all the way out to East town. Yeah. And it was after to a car before it was done and silt on it. Right? Yeah. And like, Okay, I'm never doing that again.

Yeah, that is joint at 115 is probably pretty it was.

It was stupid. But again, I was I didn't know anything. And yeah, I should I shouldn't have done it. So

reviews and how to says I've added extra tip on dirt as you can just chat within the source support and request it. But why should I have to chat with support, I should be able to do what I want in my own receipt.

And how many would do that? That's the biggest thing, right? They people will follow the features that that's given to them. And that's

the easiest, loss resistant if I gotta reach out to support I'm like, Yeah, I guess as a gig worker, I might do that. But I'm like, that's a pain in the ass.

Most people are gonna say no, it's not that important. Yeah.

Because I'll never see this guy again. Oh, my gosh. So he also points out there's evidence consumers are increasingly taking rides and ordering foods from the same platform. This is where it's might be good for DoorDash and Lyft. To go ahead. Yep. He says that users relying on both services account for 46% of Ubers bookings while 50% 6% of grab customers, I don't know what that as must be a food delivery platform, use more than one of its services. And he says that consumers who use both rides and delivery spend 75% more on average than the single platform users. Which makes sense. It's like what Facebook's goal is to keep you in Facebook all as much as they can. So this keep adding services

Facebook seriously sucks lately, though,

lately?

I don't even know. It's terrible. Yeah, terrible.

Well, what do you guys think in the chat yea or nay on the

on the merger and the merger? I go with ne ne, I think it's gonna be bad. See, it's because it's just one less competitor in the market. So it's just now we the bid. In my mind, the big benefit for gig workers is to get as many as possible companies out there Yeah. Because so now it's only one company is the same thing about we always talked about having many buckets. What happens if you get if you get kicked off the platform? Now you'd have to pet from not just one?

Yeah, in theory, but they almost they run almost separate anyways, though, even though Uber Eats and Uber rides are in the same app. They still I don't run both of them ever at the same time. Does that make sense? So I don't run rides and eat at the same time. So essentially, but

for now What happens if your Uber driver account gets deactivated? Now you can't drive? That's

not necessarily true. I mean, what would you if you got deactivated for a mask? They're not going to deactivate your food account? Why would they do that? Because you don't have to have a mask on in the car. But

isn't it the same account?

It is. So I think they just take I mean, I'm guessing that they just take the ride power off your platform off your app. I mean, you could be right to but I guess my point is, that's why I'm not so negative about the merger, because I would run Lyft and DoorDash at different times anyways, so it doesn't really bother me. And I almost look at maybe live would bring a little bit more transparency into the gig world. kind of tell DoorDash Hey, you guys need to be a little nicer. You need to you know, I don't know not that lifts been the nicest in the gay community. But I feel like they've been the least amount of assholes. Shut up, John, you don't know. Don't be don't be doing this.

Thanks, John, for agreeing with me.

John. Everyone agrees with

Yes. For them the best looking? Of

course, that's Wow. Yeah, that's true.

All right, when talk about Middleton technology, so many Middleton tech, develop drivers, utility helper Maximo, and flexibler is their automation apps for those platforms like DoorDash, UberEATS, GrubHub, Uber, Lyft, all of them. And de drive utility Hopper only works with DoorDash maximum works with UberEATS Lyft, blah, blah, the rest of them, but you make more money and you drive safer. I mean, I know Gary wants me to post the drive safer, which I appreciate. But let's be frank, people want to make more money, too. And I think that's a huge thing. The link is in our description, unfortunately, is only for Android at this point. But I mean, really, if you're a full time gig worker, honestly, I mean, maybe even part time 2030 hours a week, you should be running two phones anyways.

I mean, it was because you kind of phone you got an Android phone. Yeah,

I only use it for gig work. I shut it off in the summer, when I'm not doing gig work. So check it out. We'd appreciate it. If you click on that link, download it, just try it out. If it's for you, great. If it's not, you know, send the feedback to me. What don't you like about it what you like about it? You can automate everything by auto accept auto decline set parameters as far how far you want to drive. It's incredible. So thank you, Gary, for believing in us to spread your word.

Thank you so much, Gary. Oh, mad disrespect for that. Dammit.

I didn't play what's wrong with my board tonight? I'm hitting it. Oh, no, that's the wrong one. There we go. Cheese was our first first podcast

mad disrespectful. There we go.

Yes, spur?

Yes. You're up.

Okay, so you should show it. So basically, been out for 10 seconds. Because you have me switch back and forth. You can now choose how you want to earn either earned by order and per order. You will learn a while you can read it by your lease, the amount shown or farm for delivery. As always, you get 100. No, your customer tip. Yeah. Okay. Are you going to invite time? Which is $14 an hour? Plus 100% of customer tips. I like how they you know, they state you get 100%?

Yeah. Well, it's interesting, though, that you're going to earn 14 plus 100%.

Now it says If you decline two orders in one hour, your test will end. Yeah. But I guess the point there is, is maybe that's their way of getting all the orders. Nobody wants to deliver delivered.

Yes. Yeah. So that's what I was thinking. I was like, Is this doesn't make sense.

But who would do this for $14 an hour? And I know you get the tip, I guess

allegedly. But actually, if I get the tips plus 14, I'll do it. Yeah,

but you don't you're not getting cheap tips, though. That's true. That's true. You know, I mean, it's just gonna make you take all the $3 and treat on our tip. So $3 for delivery tips. Yeah. Oh, hang on. I get all the $3 per order deliveries. Yes.

There we go. Yeah, no, it's hard. You're right. Now that I think about it, I forget that. Yeah, you'll start to take those poverty. Right, right. So where would the hourly be for you? That would be worth you.

I was always aiming at $25 an hour when I was driving. Yeah,

but you're driving during peak times. Let's say you're driving for lunch crowd on a Wednesday. Would you be happy with 20? I would.

No, I don't think no, no, you boozy bitch. Well, it's just when I'm out driving. When I look at what is worth me not spending time with my family. Yeah, that's fair, you know? And it's just 20 is too little.

Yeah, I mean, you got to look at it though. Like as your full time gig worker, like, surely in your job at home, you're gonna make more than $20 an hour to be away from your family. But I don't know. Yeah, I would do it for 20. But I would have to be more on the weekend. So what? Yeah, you

want to get the hourly rate on your say that did it? Well, but I mean, is it doesn't show the fine print. Well, that

that's even the worst. So you only so so in between time you don't get paid? Well, that's even a double SCREW YOU who would do that? I mean, my gosh. Hey, thanks for reviews and how tos for the Super Chat. I believe. I appreciate that. Look at you say just found us, y'all. And he has been binging on the podcast on the road. Great content. Well, thank you so much. super appreciate

100 episodes for you to pin John's on dreads.

Yeah, not? Yeah, we got the bonus ones. And so we're probably at like 150 At this point,

and you become a patreon. You get some of the good content first. Yeah. And

you see Esper with no pants on.

You don't believe me? You don't nobody want to pay for

that. That's true. I would.

Can we change something, please?

All right, we're moving into what are we doing? Oh, so I don't know a ton about this. I highlight a few things. Because we talked about it. The New York taxi cabs kind of making a deal with Uber. Yep. So this is kind of the same thing. Basically, it's a Uber flywheel technologies deal with taxi and partnership. Uber stock pops 6%. during Tuesday's trading session as the ride hailing giant reportedly nearing a deal with Flywheel technologies to add taxis to the Uber app in San Francisco. I don't understand the fly wheel technologies. Is that just like a third party that's working with them or what? I don't know a lot about that?

I don't know, either. I don't need to be I just I wonder if you heard about it? Well, I mean, the idea is that, at least when we read it last time is it adds to taxi cabs to the platform. Right? So yeah, so when you are driving, sorry, if you are requesting a ride, you can you can pick to get a get a cab, a yellow cab, right? Instead of just a regular Uber. Uber Black, you can get a good look.

Yeah. I noticed despite opposition San Francisco approved a pilot program last year that allows consumers to see taxi fares up front. So similar to Uber and Lyft. What I don't understand at all this is when I talked about it with Steve, that the rates were going to be the same for a Yellow Taxi or an Uber, like when a consumer looked at the app

can be though. No, it was.

That's what he said.

Steve said, See,

we talked about it. Thanks, Steve. Steve from right to rodeo. Why are you laughing like that?

You don't know. I mean, I mean, Steve, no, no, I mean, I'm just joking. You know, it's tough.

What's interesting in this article,

but it's not the same, right? It's not the same rate, or if you pick an Hoopoe bag, so we're back. Why wouldn't it be a different rate? Well, I think the

Uber the ELO cat, it's the same rate as an Uber X. Now, why would you pay more for a new one? Who in their right mind as a consumer would look at that and go, I'm gonna pay more for this Yellow Taxi. Like, taxis are gross. They don't keep their cars clean, like we keep ours clean, because it's our personal vehicles. Like, why would you pay more for taxi on the Uber platform?

I think there's a continent as a concept sent out their conception. I can't dispel those. Those if you will, yeah, that that caps are better and safer, right?

Not anymore. They were early on when Uber and Lyft came around, but I don't think anymore. I don't think that even I don't think they are but while we're also in the biz, too, so Uber, which has been slammed by driving shorter suits and soaring gas prices has emphasized that it has more drivers in the US now than any other point during the current Coronavirus pandemic. I, I question that because I'm watching like gay bow and Ypsilanti. And even a couple of people in Grand Rapids and even Matt Davis. They're making bank like the numbers are good. So I'm thinking that drivers are out there. I think they're just busier now because or that these guys are making bank because there's not as many drivers out there but

well, again. So his is a special area. His is not a particular big metro I think that the

gate, but he can go anywhere.

No, no he can but he's in Ypsilanti. Yeah, so So I think I think that the the, the article in question is talking specifically about big metros like LA and New York and you know, the big cities will probably have tons of cars. Yeah.

Anyways, yeah, I noticed some of these guys that post their earnings though they never show what their promotions were and I don't know why like it's still considered earnings. You shouldn't feel bad to hide the promotions like you're still getting the money you hustled you pick the right promotion, and you got it. But yeah, some of these guys are 30, you know, 25 hours a week making a grand in our market.

So by knowing nothing wrong with that, I thought

the stat was interesting to in the last three months of 2021, Uber passengers took 1.7 7 billion trips, or approximately 19 million trips per day on average. That's nuts. 19 million,

but then it would be very interesting to see compare that to how many drivers is because that's in the American market, right?

It didn't it didn't say no, my guess is maybe this that was probably the entire world. But still,

it'd be nice to see then how many drivers was covering those 19 million rides?

That's crazy. I mean, very crazy. All right, moving on, moving forward, moving on. More than 50 Gig workers have been killed while work in the US in 2017. The Verge?

Yep. That's mine. Yep. There's no video on that. All right. Correct. So basically, their own article is that it's talking about how many, you know, more than 50 Gig workers have been killed while working in the US since 2017. And basically, this is just talking about how the fact that, you know, if you're a gig worker, it's actually pretty dangerous. So talk us out of the article is times out by talking about a woman, Isabella Lewis? Who was driving Lyft on a Sunday in Plano, Texas, and she was carjacked and killed by her passengers. So, and again. Yeah, obviously, we saw we saw an episode earlier today where the same happened. Right. And, and she was killed. Yeah. So again, it's difficult to date. However, her family says, Oh, yeah. So it goes on to then talk about how lifts quite often. And all the platforms in general, quite quite often don't really have a good way of communicating with the victims. No. And that that's really the big focus on of the article is yes, it's dangerous. But then also the platform's doesn't really seem to support the family much afterwards. Yeah. Unless, I guess, I mean, I can think of a couple of times where things have happened. And I think maybe it's been because they have caught the incident. It's caught has caught viral. Yeah. And lots of interests, you know, in the media, and then the platform steps out with the Okay, we better go do something about it. Yeah. But obviously, there has been lots of lots of examples where not, you know, not happened. And basically, in this case, the first case here, yeah, somebody did try to call but it was based, it was lifted. And sure, we'll try to get a hold to see if they were gonna have to fix it. Fix the damaged windshield and clean up applied as right or rights. Not very nice. I'm having to do a GoFundMe campaign to just cover her funeral service. So which is not I mean, live should have stepped up. Yeah, absolutely.

I feel like these companies hide and run. They're like, Oh, we're a technology company. We don't really care. Which if they should do the other thing. They should be awesome with these when shit like this happens, because it just

feels like it would be. I hate to I mean, I mean, no disrespect right now. But it feels like it would be a cheap way of collecting goodwill. Yeah. Because it's not, I mean, to them to give $10,000 for funeral service, or whatever it is, that would be a drop in the bucket, right? I mean, and you can buy that cable and kind of press? Well,

it's like I'm thinking about it. Now we'd be talking about it. Either way. We're talking about this saloon or if you did, if you did that. So why not do the right thing instead of us talking about how you try to skirt the system, ABS or skirt the victim or whatever, you want to do

the right thing for the right reason? Yeah, no, I agree. I agree. Okay, so the report found the people so the article is talking about a report that's been made about this found that 60% of the app base workers killed in the past five years were people of color even though they come they composed less than 40% of the US workforce. So obviously, drawing during this that is that is more dangerous to be Be a person of color do work in the gig work. So the numbers in the report are consistent with the limited self reporting from individual platforms and community safety report from 2021 live report a 10 fatal attacks against drivers from 17 to 19. And 19. Uber reported 19 fatal attacks over the preceding two years. Yeah. But again, and then it just goes on talking about the same thing. Basically, yes, these things happen. And very rarely does the platform's do anything to even help or do any kind of stuff to support the family member even though that they claim they do? Yeah,

I think the same thing kind of applies for people that maybe the assaulted, you know, we're talking about deaths, but what about all the other stuff sexual assault, short, that kind of stuff that they go by and don't really support the victims and stuff? It's crazy.

So the question one thing that men one time they mentioned in the app, they're talking about the whole thing that the again, go go to the thing that always comes up is, well, we individual contract workers, we're not, you know, w two workers, we're not employees, and we don't get all the support. We don't get all the you know, the safety net or whatever. Okay, but that's fine. We are not controversial, but I feel like there's a difference here. Right. I feel like that. We also human beings,

yeah, like do the right thing as a human.

Yeah, we do. And so they should, too, right. Yeah, the platform is should do the right thing, too. And so it's no longer is no longer a question about whether or not we are employees, or we are, you know, w two workers are 1099 workers, right. Well, you own your turn. I know we can. No, no, that's bullshit.

Well, they use that as their advantage when they don't want it.

They absolutely do. Yeah, absolutely. But that's, that's, I mean, that's the whole that's the whole karma. Right. It's gonna come back to you.

Yeah. Because we were talking shit about you,

right.

Hey, Steve, thank you so much for the 999 Super Chat. Love you both.

Thank you so much. The Hey,

we got a little thing we had we had a $5 one nine $10 One who's gonna go above 10? Who's gonna go above 10? Going once. All right. Thank

you so much for all your love tonight. Guys. This is great. It's great to be back.

It is. Well, I wouldn't didn't leave but it's so great to be back. I never leave.

I never leave. Here's a tip from DoorDash. Take bag. Oh, thanks for clarifying you. For listeners. on audio. It's a bag of pennies. I don't see any silver in there whatsoever. But there's a piece of tape. This is DoorDash chip take bag. What you think I'm going to open it up and take four pennies and then leave the rest for the next driver. I mean, there's probably like $1 in there if that? Not even No, I mean, how many pennies in $1? Yes, for 100 Good job. Yeah, can we do we did do a little math there. So hey, guys, we have a new sponsor, DVD deliveries driver Incorporated. So basically this company helps you with taxes and human resources and all that stuff. Connects DDI, deliver DDI connects businesses with independent contractor delivery drivers, those part time or full time drivers work with specific companies and industries that span restaurant delivery, courier delivery, grocery delivery, and many many more. So basically, you can use them as your human resources, right taxes, insurance, all that stuff. And this is the company that you go through to get on Walmart spark, and they also have a bunch of other companies so go ahead and click on the link you can sign up as a driver and then you can find if there's opportunities in your area I know John from California there was no Walmart spark but anyone else listening in the area you should check it out link is in the description.

And also they don't necessarily they have a lot of natural unknown you know delivery partners there those jobs there that you may not know about? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. So this there's many ways of doing you know, new buckets and this is definitely one of those ways of adding a bucket to to pocket income to your to your portfolio of people you're working for

Yeah, when we interviewed Aaron the CEO I found out about well about I'm sorry.

This is great. Thank you.

Yeah, I found out about Spark through him and I I sent recruited an account and they basically hired me so yeah. DDI they're the spark middleman. Yes, they are the spark middleman and I think that's their biggest client is Walmart. But sure, yeah, check it out. Might be might be

worth it. Obviously. The other benefit as you mentioned, too, is they do they do offer up a bunch of other services, including the tech service. And they offer up some incentive programs as well. Yeah for for Have the rideshare drivers. So basically, they just want to be, they want to be there to help you all the stuff you don't get, you know, support as as as you don't have an in a normal having a normal employee relationship. So

yeah, it's definitely something that you should check out. Even if it's just to the point of, you know, becoming a Walmart driver. I was looking at Hold on, they have health insurance, they have pet insurance, they have a dash cam driver app, I guess and a tactics discount a mileage tracker, vehicle maintenance, like they have a whole bunch of stuff is when you sign up to be a driver. So check them out. Oh, you guys, John. He said, stop being so stingy. Steve did send out. And then Steve raised some two bucks. But Steve, you don't get top of the Super Chat unless you'd go $10.01 So I'm just saying. Just saying. I'm kidding. Stop it. You too. All right. Stop it. All right. Yes, we're gonna check out this amazing tip that this customer got.

Oh, yeah. Congratulations, Andre. Andre, Andre B. Andre $300. You have received a tip

so this has been going around here's a letter late this week he if you took a trip we accidentally showed your tip 100 times higher than it actually was. This happened because our system error what has been fixed. During this time your trip history Trooper seat and wallet show the correct tip amount. You also paid the correct tip amounts from your customers. The high tip shown must have been exciting. So we're sorry for any confusion. This may have caused Uber team.

Right. So I actually saw quite a few people posting. Posting so it wasn't just a little glitch. It was pretty widely.

How do you screw up a decimal? Like I don't understand I

saw somebody posting $1,000 Yeah,

like can you tell me as a coder how that even happens?

Well, there's many reasons why you miss count do the do a programming Miss miscalculating the tip I mean, that's yeah,

it's just like someone entered a button wrong and then update you know, when we put stuff on our website, you're like, alright, you don't ready okay, post

what it is, it's when they when they met when they when this show when this show the label Walmart disaster, that that number has to be calculated into a string to be made into a currency string. And so whoever did that, who set up the to change the current string? Made a boo boo.

I love it. How you laughing for you explained it because we're like,

Well, I don't know. Yeah, if you're gonna trying to get fired, there you go.

Right. But is it as simple as like when they created that string? They they put a decimal in the wrong spot? Well,

you have to you have to tell it how to reformat the string. Okay, so he made a mistake when he told him how to format the string. Okay, you know, so it's that sweet

Jesus. Oh, yeah. I mean, there was a couple of crazy ones. But I wouldn't be I mean, it's possible you could get a $300 tip although I think Uber limits the amount you can tip don't pay with the certain percentage of the riders. I think it's only

in certain markets. Okay, do that. I don't know.

Every app is different. So yeah.

What is the what is the largest you gotta have you have ever gotten in tip? Not cash too bumpy?

Oh, gosh. I don't know. Yeah, I would say probably less than 50 bucks on the app. I've definitely got some hundreds on the wood cash.

I think the larger I've gotten on the app is 20 bucks. But 20 bucks, but I've gotten you know, I've gotten 50s and 102 once.

John did I say Jesus, Jenny? I do say that. I don't know where that's from. You ever have sayings? He says adult and you're like, I don't know where I got that from, but I say it. Jesus, Jenny. All right. Couple more things that were out of here. I thought this was funny. To Text. This is your GrubHub driver. Ariana Pizza Hut cannot honor your quest at four pounds of pepperoni on one personal pie. He says that's fine, Ariana, but let them know the name of the man who out Pizza Hut. I mean, it's probably fake. But it's still funny.

It's definitely fake. Here

is something real quick. It's gonna jump into yes, we're DoorDash math. I saw somebody post this. How they track their mileage which you should track your mileage with hurdler which link is in description. But this guy literally every, like 330 4.5 Miles ending location put the address in purpose of this trip pick up 349 7.2 Miles starting location. I mean, I'm not kidding. Yeah, that's fucking crazy. Why would you do that? that oh my god I don't know if it was true or not, but he got so much shit on the group's it's like, I kind of felt bad for him I'm like man, why did you post that?

Oh my god like two months time Yeah,

I mean I appreciate you tracking it because there's still dumb asses out there that I see now. Hey I don't have my mileage and I can't get it from your dad or your folks or

do you think

who what what tax person is gonna want to see that shit anyways?

You know what I do? I figured out my mileage and I tell them them out I don't that's all I do right he doesn't look at my my stuff my

spreadsheet you know this is more if somebody comes in want to see it you know, review it after all like

like an audit or something. The IRS guy is gonna like you're fine asshole like I'm done like it's fine here. Here's your

I used to take the number from Uber. And then I added 15 Wasn't really Oh yeah, because they never they never count they Uber doesn't count the in between ride for sure.

So I keep track of it. Usually twice. Today I keep track of it with an app with hurdler, so I mean, I don't even need to do that when John says everlands I mean there's ton of them out there. hurdler offers more features in the premium like

you used to Lincoln. Yes, please.

Hey, we got to get paid. $10 is the highest tip who's going higher? I'm just saying. Steve's like you asshole. All right. So this is interesting. I know we're running a little over but I wanted to play this video. It's about dog safety. So we're gonna play that real quick. And then it's about one it's about 90 seconds so then we'll discuss

the description about this young woman coming out to get her packages after the you know Amazon driver goes by sees a stray dog out let's listen into the audio from the cat. I don't know why it's glitchy.

Not mine but. A badass

before he says that the dog was picked up by animal control a little bit later, no serious injuries. The Amazon driver has been lauded for this and we get to think about some lessons. Good grief. If this isn't an argument to have an OC spray on your person. I don't know what is their 12 bucks guys go either on Amazon or I'll put a link in the description to pom and go get one of their canisters and keep it on you to give this dog the hot sauce and not put yourself in danger lesson time.

Anyways, so there's there's a couple of things. I love that that Amazon driver just like she's dealt with a bunch of dogs. You can see she's like, get up. Get out, get out of bed. You're a bad dog. I'm like she's a badass. I love that. She jumped into that. What are your thoughts about that? I know John, not John crisp was too much to actually share that in the group. He's been bitten by a dog with a food delivery before so I know he does carry spray now too, but that's a scary situation. It looks like that dog was fine. But when that other dog was there her dog right. Lost his shift. So

actually very interestingly enough, we have two dogs. Yeah, and Penny our older dog has recently ever since we added all the dog into the mix. Yeah, she goes crazy bananas when Windows a third dog coming into it, but only when waffles was there. And you're saying so when she's alone with your dog? It's fine, huh? But the moment waffles get into the mix, she goes crazy bananas. I mean really see what aggressive really aggressive smiles wow I know it's how

do you get a third dog in the mix? Like if you're walking over somewhere we take

him to the dog park fine. If I take both the dogs I cannot get Botox. Oh wow. It was absolutely crazy. That's interesting. So I don't know why that is. But it's just one of those things. So yeah, I I was trying to sit and put myself in her situation and I think I would have done the exact same thing I would have got down and say hi to the dog because you is a cutie and Zara? Yeah, I think she handled everything correct she lifted up the little dog got the little dog I might have kicked the other dog.

Yeah, there wasn't enough kicking involved because I she was trying to block it with your hand. I'm like no, that's the last thing you kicked

that doggy bows might if the die little dog was mine, I might have kicked.

Yeah. Larry says no one's going to have their pepper spray on them when they go to pick up a package. Yeah, I get that it's more talking about the Amazon driver and as a gig was gonna say she might have had had pepper spray Yeah, I mean I don't but reviews and how to says my Flex routes in rural Oklahoma are crazy with all the free days range doc. Man Amazon is scary because like when you're getting food delivery people are expecting it. Right? People aren't expecting I mean, they are expecting Amazon packages, but they don't ever know when they're going to come. So dogs are crazy on on package delivery routes. It's it's good. I've gotten to the point where I've like driven up to as close as I could get and just chucked it in took a picture from the window. I'm not getting bid like, yeah, that see that was crazy about that dog. He was fine with people. But when he saw another dog, he's like,

I'm buying it. So.

And this last Tiktok it's too close with it's kind of random, but we'll just play it since I have it. Okay,

gotcha. thought it's a good idea to steal the tip jar from our small shop when all her info is what's your dad? It is true though.

packaging it up. There's a tip jar right there.

At least he's got a bag.

Whoever doesn't deliver

the bag is a savage. Sweet time. While she's waiting for the person to walk away. Yeah. And Eric goes into the bag. She jams the food in there.

Upside down.

Water hell.

Anyways, that that's terrible. But like you're gonna get caught to like they know who picked that up. And how do they people know that there's no cameras there? For what?

Doesn't even matter, right? People are just stupid.

Right? Like there's cameras everywhere. What are you doing?

Right? Exactly. Anyways,

and yeah. Why are you stealing from the store?

Right piece of crap. But anyways, if you want to do your miles on a piece of paper, we'll send you a piece of paper free of charge. By

the way. I was just like, Oh, are you are you could sign up for DVI or hurdler? Yeah,

I mean, we got we got we got sponsors coming out our ass and I love every bit of I'm pulling that video. Oh my

gosh. Oh, my God.

JOHNSON I still have restaurants asking me to confirm the order. Yeah, I have some that say that too. But most of them are like, easy easy. Larry got the spit take Yeah, that was pretty good. Anyways, guys, I appreciate y'all listening and tuning in tonight. We'll see in a couple of weeks.

Thank you so much, guys. Good to be back. Bye Bye.

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