Episode #109

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Hey, everybody. Hey, yeah,

so tonight we have John, Kellyanne Hill, you might see him on camera or you might not he's gonna kind of be helping us run the studio portion of this a little bit. So thanks, John, for helping out real quick if you go to gig economy show.com That's where you find everything gig economy podcast related. You can also join our Tiktok group and our Facebook group. We also have a newsletter. I don't know when the last time it's been out mass Mom, did it go out last month?

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Well, it's because Megan came on. Hey, Megan. Oh, wow.

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So Larry, since you did mention this, I'm gonna put it up here. Are you coming to the picnic does you Sure, because I mean, a couple of times

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Absolutely. And lift and lifting. Larry, I would love to see both you and John. John committed to that is that is definitely I would like to do that. Yeah. I would also like to mention now that you know, Larry is now in his second in his second like,

career career. Yep. And he's in retirement with a

career. There you go. Right. He still has lots of people, lots of kids to bring to college and stuff I hear so he's not done yet. But if you are looking to move to Bowling Green, absolutely talk to Larry. that's those are some awesome houses that I see your posts on Facebook. Larry, that is just some cool stuff that you're doing that yeah, it's

it's still relatively inexpensive to live in Bowling Green. Yeah, I saw some of the prices I'm like, That ain't bad. Not bad at all. Don't Don't Don't try to buy anything Grand Rapids right now. No, I just I just did that. shits going for a million dollars a pop? I mean, not.

I saw we actually have a house lifted. We have one for $7 million. And Kent County. Do you know? That is crazy.

Is Joe going to the picnic this year? Joe who died? I don't know. I don't know. Mark.

Do we have a Joe?

I don't know of a Joe. Joe Biden. Joe mama, you fucker. That's it

so yeah, thank you guys. Patreon. Also the sale bloquer did that match and the teller mentioned I'm reading with the I'm like Larry fucking Larry, Brian burgundy. He reads whatever's on the teleprompter. We'd love you to join us on telegram we just had Oh yeah, we just had a new member on telegram. His name is Brad Sweeney. And he is okay. I'm gonna slaughter this because you know I'm a dumb Michigander. He's from says Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada. Woohoo. Yeah, that is where he's from. So Brad, thank you so much. He started listening to show about a month ago solely listening to know all oh my god, are you? I'm acting like Brad's listening or Oh, he'll hear this later. But yeah, don't start at number one. Please don't. It was pretty bad.

So he's Tyler Cain. By the way, you may get you killed it.

So I do have a friend that said that's the name colon. So.

Oh, so that's that's your that's how you're gonna know. I'm

gonna fuck it up between now and to the

defendant. Yeah, I'm so sorry. Tyler. I tried to tell him it's Kane, of course. But no,

he didn't. The Dane over there didn't say shit. I would have had no clue. But anyways, thank you, Tyler. He's our newest Patreon member. And we can't thank you enough. All right, I lost my spot. Where are we? Oh, yeah. So join the telegram group. It can be a lot of fun and can be super boring. But if you ever have a comment or a question about any kind of gig related, there's about 4050 people in there. You can ask it on there. I want to give a shout out to Steve Johnson from rideshare. Rodeo. He is very under the weather right now had two molars removed a couple of days ago. And then his son got COVID. And he's pretty sure he has COVID he had to go to the emergency room. Because he has breathing trouble anyway. So COVID doesn't help that at all. He's home resting. So I told him if he wasn't on tonight that we weren't friends anymore. I don't see him. So he's got 4051 minutes to chime in. So

but see Janet, she still makes it every time. Yeah, right. I mean, I don't know. See? What's the what's the problem? Right.

No excuse Janet's always on. I know. Thank you, Janet. Yeah. And then of course the radio show. Or you're on this week, right? Good because I'm out of town.

No, that's your time. No, I

was just on it. That. Yeah. Last Friday.

Were you on the show last Friday. Nobody was on the show. No, that

was two weeks ago, bro. You are like your way out of it. That was two weeks ago. You sir was two weeks ago. And you were on, and I was just on last Friday. So you're on this Friday. Oh, it's good because I'm gone. Where are you going? I gotta go to the cabin and open it. So anyway, it's a chore. I know it is. There ain't no nothing fun. I'm driving three and a half hours working all day Saturday and then driving home Sunday. So boo. I know. Yeah, I gotta help the mother in law. I mean, you know, hopefully the cab will be ours someday. But anyways, the radio show seven nine Eastern on TNC

radio, and apparently I'm gonna be on

it apparently yesterday is going to be on he's not happy about it. It might just be you and Tom. If If Steve is no, no,

yeah. better prepared.

Anyways, let's see. All right, I think that's it. We're going to talk about Irvine's auto repair in Grand Rapids hybrid. They are the studio sponsor. You can call them at five three to 6600. Or you can schedule online Irvine's dot com. Don't believe us, though. Check out all their good Google reviews. I know they pay us to say stuff about them. But the people that are leaving the Google reviews are actual people that have had service. Well, I guess I have to Well, you haven't? No. You haven't. I mean, disrespect.

I know. I know. Yeah. Well, I think the truth of the matter is, we will say all these nice things about him, even if we weren't getting paid.

Yeah, that's true, right? I mean, I mean, I wasn't going there as a regular customer before I started, but I just didn't really know about it. I guess I don't know. I wasn't in this is why they advertised because now people don't go so yeah, obviously if you go there mention our name. And Megan said there's a car show on our show. You know, I will be in Dallas for the podcast. Conference. I'm pretty sure

I'll be in town because that'll be the week after the news festival which I'm doing this year. So yeah, that's gonna

be a sketch month for us and because Aren't you going to Denver or is that July? You're

going to Denmark? I'm going to them in July. Okay,

we're going to just take the whole summer off so Are y'all it's going to be too damn busy.

Hey, Catherine. How you doing?

All right, so first up, we're going to talk about nothing we're gonna want to talk we're gonna watch a video about a drone delivery All right, let's go wow here goes dropping it. Little parachute wow okay, well, it's

fake. It looks fake. Yeah,

I know the audio listeners. i We didn't say much but basically it was a drone. It dropped a box and yes for says it's fake. Right. It's not fake looks. The unit at the Walmart. I did see it. But what why do you think it's fake?

I don't know. It just doesn't look right.

Skeptical

or yesterday says everything's fake. Yeah, he does.

Not. Even the drone look like you're like a 1998 model or something?

No, I look like a no. Those are. When you think of drone. You're thinking the one that Leo has with the helicopters. This was like an airplane

big. Yeah, no, I know. I did. I saw it. I saw the video. Okay.

Do you think that Chris Rock and Will Smith was fake too.

I thought in the beginning it was but looking at the aftermath. No, no,

I agree. I thought it was fake at the beginning too. But it's but can't get dog food. Now. You're right. I wouldn't be able to live that day. No, it wouldn't. Someday, maybe.

And Megan, I reserve the right to maybe be there. I make no promises though.

Oh, my gosh. Megan, you updated your photo on Facebook. I don't know. That's so random that I said that. It just looks different. All right. Yes. We're gonna talk about masks.

Masks. That was a so it's all news today. I'm sure most of you who have been following along what's actually happening. But that was pretty cool. So as of April 19 2020, do riders and drivers are not required to wear masks when using Uber. However, the CDC said we might recommend power stocks basically. What was it they were saying what it was so but there was no lawsuit. Whereas the word I was looking for

there's another picture. John, can you put that

there it is I got dager as a result of a court order effect immediately and as of April 18, CDC Oh, yeah. January 29. order requiring masks on public transportation conveyances and transportation hops. You is no longer in effect. So therefore, there's no masks in. Yeah, Uber, and I'm assuming Lyft either. So, so yeah, that's pretty cool. I think and I am actually actively working on figuring out how to get back on the road and, and and platform Uber. But I must, I must admit that the cost of gas is slowing things down a little bit my enthusiasm. Well,

I mean, there's still money to be made out there. Oh, sure. And now's actually a good time to do it. Because there's not as many drivers out there, I would expect because of the gas. But

if I'm being 100% honest, the van hasn't done much in two years. And I must admit, Megan, I do need to forgive bringing into you and it has something been on my mind because I needed to just give it a one toe turn. Look at everything that's wrong.

Don't tell him to give it a one silver because you're gonna need some lube. I met with everything they're gonna find wrong,

I understand. But there could also be understood in another way.

Another spit take y'all drink. It's I know.

But anyways, it is something I'm actually actively working on getting back on Uber. My My plan is to drive once a week. But again, I gotta get back. And Megan, you can answer this maybe do you guys do? What's it called? The things for Uber? What are the inspection sheets is worse? Yeah, of course. Yeah. So yeah. So I'm gonna have you do that as well. So 55, three to 6600. We know that. I will call you

that is the only number I know in my life other than my own number, like if somebody lives, I struggle sometimes with it. She was a lot. Like few said, What's Irvine's number? I'm like, I can I can tell you right off the bat. So yeah, but

I do know that it's actually making weird noises in the bag, and I gotta bring it in. And so So again, I just need to make sure that is on was on Save once,

of course. And honestly, what's nice is they're gonna tell you everything was wrong, but you don't erase everything. Because the last time they're like you have a small leak and a shock or something, I'm like, that's fine. And like, a week later, it started making a creek noise. And I was like, fuck, what like,

and it's I think it's the things that people always you know, it's the it's always better knowing than not knowing, of course right? And so then you can deal with you can make

your decision and be like, it's not worth it. I'm gonna ride this until the wheels fall off. You know, that's, it's up to you. I mean, obviously they would want you to fix it because a it's the business and be it's better for your car but correct. But I think the if you brought the black one and I think it would the repairs would cost more than the car. Oh, no,

the black. The black one is literally not worth 500 Yeah, but

I mean if you're gonna give that to your son, you're gonna have to make it road ready, though? No,

I am and definitely we are gonna get back we actually made plans to get it back. And I will bring it in to Megan at that point. Because if Max was going to be driving that regularly, I need to there's a couple of minor things that need to be happening. Yeah,

well my goal is to ride the pile drive the pilot till Avery needs it when she starts driver's training in August which is scary. Well, Maxwell

style drivers training last year if you could just get his lacy behind often actually to finish it. That would be good.

Yeah. Anyway, so yeah, what? masks you know, everyone's doing it. I don't know anyone that's listening. If you're having issues with riders or

right, so what exactly and somebody asked earlier, you know, what, what are you what do you do if if somebody comes gets in your car and they are masking? You know, are you supposed to mask and I guess it's up to your your own conscience? Yeah, I mean, Uber and Lyft says, No, you don't have to anymore. But the big thing that comes with that is the force seat has now been unlocked again. Yes. Right. And I think a lot of people forget about that. That was part of it. And so with that also came you no longer have to just You're not required to want to do a three if your party has four, you have to let them sit next to you. Right, but they are the same tone. They are encouraging drivers. So riders to sit in the back. Yeah. And so if there's only a party or three or sit in the back, and don't you know, don't necessarily think about using the front seat.

Yeah, I'm gonna, when I do go back to ride share this fall. I'm gonna miss having that open seat. I kind of like not having anyone out there. I can put my lunch pail up there and all that other stuff. So

yeah, there was you know, I must admit, though, I'm gonna I'm gonna miss all those drunken college boys putting their hands on my legs.

Are you kidding me? You're gonna pack like 15 people in that fucking van.

They're like, but don't do that. It's not gonna be a comfort van anymore. It's too old now. Yeah,

you're you're down to us XL peasants. Anyways, so after all those masks were dropped. There was a market while it's Washington DC, that basically is saying you need to still wear. But anyways, so I'll just have to figure out what I marked. So the basically in Washington DC, you still have to wear a mask, which is kind of weird. And Uber says basically, that you have to follow local regulations for that kind of stuff. But Lyft said, wishes was interesting. So Uber says you don't have to wear a mask when driving with Uber unless required by local authorities, drivers must, using Uber must comply with local rules and regulations. Okay, whatever's staple, then left says there were more vague about it. wearing mask on transportation may still be required by law in some areas, and we encourage riders and drivers to check their local public health requirements before using law. So it doesn't say you must follow local law. So I thought that was interesting, too. Yep. It really doesn't say much in here why they decided to do that. And for all I know, this article was posted. I don't know where it is, but it might be gone now. I don't know. But it's just weird. That they made him do that. But what's your thoughts on

the DC area? I mean, yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I think maybe it's just for some reason, you know, Washington DC is just he still has those requirements in mind. Maybe it's maybe it's a because of the White House thing.

You know, it's funny, you bring that up, because we joked about it on the radio show that it's like all these politicians that are moving in and out. I'm like, if they're high enough, and they're they're not. They're not taking Ubers anyways, I mean, they're they got their own car service. So I don't know. You would

think so. Right? You would think so. But again, do probably have to mean they have to do it for everybody. So yeah,

it's just of course, Washington sees fucking shit up, because it's the government. You know what I mean? God, dang it. Alright, moving forward. Yes. Response talk about labor of love.

labor of love. No. So this is a new app that and actually, I must admit, this is my wife who found it. Yeah, wives came came up on her on her Facebook stream of all places. So L A, B R la bi.com. I believe it even is it's a it's a it's a new local app. Actually. It's Grand Rapids based, as far as I understand. And the idea is that it's, it feels like it's kind of like that. Give a hand or whatever. Some of those ads. Yeah. But the idea you can you can actually use it to both get obviously workers but also become a worker. Yeah. So so the Maya get crazy, a little bit here. So but basically, from the worker, what type of works is it so our clients are looking for extra hands, most jobs needs less than 10 minutes of training, to be ready to work, labor clients work in all kinds of industries, including landscaping, construction, restaurants, moving distribution, and more. So basically, this is probably an answer to probably some of the things that allow that kind of the restaurants and that kind of stuff that are complaining about is they can't get enough help. Yes. And so this is another way for you to add, you know, as we always say, Don't put all your eggs in one basket have many little pockets of income. And so this is another way of being, you know, Kid labor approved. Yep. And if you don't want to drive today, I want to do something else, go do something else go if it's a nice day, get us shift outside working in somebody's yard, or whatever it is. They say they're hiring everybody, at $15 An hour no matter what it is when you start out, but there's an indication that that might change. Now, whether that means it can goes both ways. Based on your reading, I'm assuming some light, okay, I don't know exactly what determines that. But but as you know, they do make a point to say, labor starts our new workers at 15 hours an hour, regardless of the job they select.

So this is not actually a gig job, then this is a 10 this is a

W two. No, it's a 1099

It is so they're paying you regardless of what company you decide to go work for. You're getting paid 15 an hour.

Well, but again, it's a company that hires you, right, so. So the way I assume it is it is that when you first start out no matter what, you get paid $15 An hour and I'm assuming my assumption is somehow based on your rate on your not not your not your higher rate, but your rating rating. Worker Yeah. So somebody you're gonna hire somebody who's gonna hire you for to do X, and they're gonna go in and say, Oh, he did a shitty job. He's only gonna get a one star. And now you only got to get paid $14.95 An hour or whatever. I don't know. But again, that's incentive pay right there, right? Yeah. If you are higher rated So, again, I don't know that that's the case. But that's how I read it.

What's really cool is this is a Grand Rapids based business. Yeah. So I'm pretty excited that to get a hold of these guys. So again,

if you are looking to add a another bucket, and abr.com. And again, I'm not sure that it's in all markets yet, but if not write to them and say, getting on why get right. So yeah, it's a very cool concept, actually, and I'm very interested in seeing and hoping that it'll that'll work out. So yeah, you can see here they start, you know, this, this particular fella here talks about how that they have worked with labor for several months, both in in Arbor and Grand Rapids. So they obviously have been around for for a number of months. So

50 an hour though, man, that's, I mean, it might if you're

being honest with yourself, though, when so sometimes when you're driving, you're not making $15 an hour. After you're paying for taxes and for gas here, there's no gas to pay.

Oh, there isn't, huh? Yeah. Well, no, there's not because just you're driving around. Yeah, you're working, whatever you're driving, it's the company's

whatever it is. Yeah. I mean, you're driving from spot to spot or you're meeting somebody at it at some work?

Yeah. I don't know. I would not be interested in it. But I am interested to talking to them. So I think that's kind of cool.

So yeah, we'll put that out there. If anybody from Labor wants to talk to us. You're actually listening to the show, right? He's reached out. Absolutely. Of course.

It will be a sponsor, la

br.com. We want to talk to somebody from your company and get you get get the pitch, get the pitch, get the pitch. Next one thing that wasn't cool, though. I'll just mention real quick. We always talk about insurance. Right? So they actually provide workers comp insurance while you're working for them. Okay, so I thought that was cool.

Yes. Cool. So next up, Uber admits it misled millions of Australians with cancellation warning. Let me see if my little Linky thing work this time. Hang on.

Linky thing. Let's see. I thought we weren't gonna talk about that one.

That's kinky thing. Oh, let me see. Oh, good. It did work on this site. Okay, so Uber could face huge fine after ostrich misleading millions of Australian users through free cancellation warnings. Spoiler, I'm just gonna let you know, I think this is bullshit this lawsuit. So as we move forward, is basically what it said to the people it says you may be charged a small fee, since your driver is already on their way, the warning read. However, the message did not make clear users were still in the apps five minute free cancellation window. So basically, it didn't tell them that they could cancel and not get charged. Uber admits in it misled Australian users for a number of years and may have caused some of them to decide not to cancel the ride after receiving the cancellation warning, even though they were entitled to cancel free of charge under Ubers own policy, they changed it to the message that said you won't be charged a cancellation fee if users seek to cancel during the free cancellation period. So I mean,

it almost feels a little bit like this cop has warm coffee in it. The message right? Oh, yes. I mean, how far do we have to go? Yeah, bullshit lawsuit a couple years ago, many years ago these today, but we know from from McDonald's. Yeah. That that, you know, may contain hot beverages.

Yeah, no, you're right. You're right. It's like,

okay, it's then read the terms and conditions. I'm sorry, but,

but they're gonna find them $26 million for that. So you know, I'm all for suing people,

to that money ends up into the lawyers company. Yeah,

I'm all fine for suing people if something's really wrong, but I mean, come on. My wife just got something in the she tried this app called new. It's like a weight loss app or whatever. And it's supposed to like, it's supposed to be this. I don't know this woke app that does a dozen different whatever. They got sued for something too for like overcharging or something. And she's like, Yeah, I'll be part of it. I think the payouts like 500 bucks. I know. I was like, usually when they're like, 510 bucks. I'm like, I'm not even dealing with that. I was like, You better fill that shit out.

I actually got it was the funniest thing I got to check out two months ago. It was some dairy product that apparently I bought. I don't know. But it was $7 $7

I mean, it's, it's it's a Bougie cup of coffee.

I know. It's so long, right? Yeah, but it was so long. I couldn't even remember I filled it. Did you cash it? Well, yeah. $7 $7

I mean, if it's in my hand, I'm cashing out $1 Check if it's in my hand and That's how much I'm going to do for work to do. All right, we're going to talk about one of our sponsors, Middleton tech. So Middleton tech as basically their goal is to make you drive safer. But also it makes you more money. If you notice on the slide that John just put up, the Make More money's a little bit bigger. I know Gary probably kicked me in the nuts for saying that, because it's all about driver safety, which I do see people complaining about DoorDash a lot about how many times you have to tap things to cancel. But it's Middleton technologies. They have the app drivers utility help helper, which is for DoorDash. They have Maximo which is for GrubHub UberEATS. Basically everything else and then flex alert, if you're a Amazon flex driver. That one doesn't really do any automation. But the Maximo is what you really need to get. They all do come with free versions, I believe. But most of them have a subscription, but it pays for itself in the first day. Check it out, try it out. It basically sets up auto decline, auto accept that kind of stuff. And just basically any any what am I trying to say? I don't not template, any. Any feature you want anything you want to control on on the app, you can do it with his his apps.

Nice. So now flex alert will tell you when when new routes get posted. Right.

Yeah, it's it's really interesting. It will not grab a route for you. It's not a route. Grauer. So you still have to tap it, but so it doesn't violate Terms of Service. But yeah, it'll also tell you if someone grabs a route, someone else grabs a route and then a number of routes have changed. It does that so it it definitely Tyler says flexibility is great. doesn't accept the blocks but saves your finger because basically yeah, it basically auto refreshes all the time. Yeah, basically. So it's worth it.

So your buddy Steve came on. You know what not to do. But our buddy

yeah, thank you Steve. You are still in the fold with the family. I did warn earlier you had 51 minutes to chime in if you didn't you were out of the fold. Of course I'm kidding we love you. Thank you Larry parameters. That was the word I'm looking for. Again, you know, I went to private school so that you know, English and talking is not my my forte

but and that's not even any alcohol. I know

I know I'm only water tonight y'all so

it is water. It is water always gin from

gross but anyways, yeah, check out metals and tech did a link in the description so

Hey, Steve, we hope everything is gonna be okay with your buddy. He will

he'll be fine. He'll be fine he's he's a tough cookie. He's a fucking snowboarder this dude snowboards and like not regular places and 98 degrees 90 Well, you can in Colorado you can be in a banana hammock sometimes and snowboard and be fine. And not that we want to see Steven a banana hammock but I will be seeing Steven something's sketchy and in Dallas hopefully not. No, no.

Are you guys sharing room?

No, we got an Airbnb has three fucking bedrooms. There's no way Larry, me and Steve. We all have our own room. Again. You know, I got COVID Last time I went. And Larry didn't because we had separate rooms. Thank God.

Do you guys have to share the bathroom?

Yeah, we do. John, we do have to share the bathroom. I'm gonna make I'm gonna make each of us clean the bathroom after we use it. Oh, there's

layers. Preferably at the same time, right?

Yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna have we're gonna have a stream or we're gonna fight lightsabers. Okay, this is getting weird. Yes, we're talking about this guy that turned in the capital rioter.

I don't know if I can. No, actually, I do want to talk about my new hero because man, when I read this article, I thought that was just the coolest thing. So basically, again, find the article. Hang on one second.

Come on. John would have had it up by now. Had one

up by now. Oh, oh. We're not even ready. I know. I wasn't even ready. Yeah, I know. So anyways. I think the Jeopardy

theme song right now I

know. I know. Did you did you? There is no slide. You didn't even put a talk. So on the rundown, an Uber driver turned in and accused capital rioter who was caught boasting about the interaction on the car's dash cam. So that's kind of cool, actually. And obviously we all know about what why are we talking about and the article states that 800 people has been a is has been arrested and More than about two or 300. I know and more 250 people are being prosecuted so far. For the riots. Yep, it is. It's pretty crazy. So I'm trying to get the actual numbers here. Hang on. Yep, more than 800 people have been arrested in connection with a capital riot and 250 to over 53 riders have pleaded guilty. That's fine. So that's pretty crazy. That's pretty crazy. And actually, it the story does end with the guy from the Uber car, pleading guilty to everything that he's going on. But he was basically he was in the car. And the driver just said, you know, he obviously they were they were in DC. And so the driver had kind of stopped devices by saying, hey, what a crazy day, huh? And then he basically started, like, almost almost just kind of, what's it called boasting about how he was part of it? Yeah, bragging? Well, last time around there, right. When I got there, brown responded, I tore down the barricades. He got you did the drive. I asked. Why? Well, because he couldn't get to the Capitol. Well, how'd that work out for you? So anyways, so after he dropped him off, he actually called and tip the local police. And they picked him up and yeah, that was cool. And, and part of the part of what was recorded in the car when they were actually able to use as, as evidence in court for what happened oh, that was even they were able to they were able to the face of the of the of the writer, they were able to find him also in some recordings that that media had done. Yeah. And that was one point, you see him hitting another man with a camera with me hitting a meeting media man, if you will, with with a piece of wood over the head, like oh, my gosh, people are just idiots,

you know, that brings up I bet has well, he pleaded guilty, everything, that's fine. But he could probably have an attorney say I wasn't privy to that, like the recording, you know what I mean? Like, no one told me this is being recorded, blah, blah, blah. And then the conversation comes up. Is Uber inside Uber car. Is that considered public area? Or is that a private conversation?

Well, it all depends on. I mean, first of all, they would be able to just do it with the, with the face only because they were able to use that face and find him true. Right. So they have this they don't even have to use the audio for it. But but the question then becomes this DC a single, you know, dual? State so who knows?

Yeah, just a conversation to say like, I think most attorneys, even Brian from legal rideshare I heard I think it was on a show with Steve I think Steve had him on from rideshare rodeo. He had said that you can you can expect privacy in a Uber or Lyft it's just yeah, you just can't do it. So

But anyways, I just thought it was a cool story. And he is now officially my new. My new my new friend, my new hero friend hero. Yep. And we have a new dare Steve, thank you so much. We had the first there had been posted 999 Who's gonna beat it? Come on.

Well, who actually won last time? I think it was John that actually won because he did one set over but then Steve did a double dip. So it's got to be it's got to be in one thing. You can't double dip. Steve. Thank you. I really appreciate that. Hey, Tom, thanks for joining. I was on a run the other day and I this is so random. And Tom texted me while I was running, but I had turned so tell me how this happens. This is complete frickin squirrel right here. I was running and I turned my cellular off. So I can listen so this is weird. So okay, I'm backing up even more. So I got Spotify right and so I downloaded a playlist on my phone store is getting long I don't so i i download the the playlist and maybe I'm just a Boomer and I don't know how this works so I downloaded on my phone right okay fine. So I play it then all of a sudden my son plays something on our Spotify account and then cuts my now it but it doesn't default to the downloaded playlist. So the only way I can play that without my son Cutting in is I have to turn this other off but again if anyone knows what the fuck I'm doing wrong, just let me know. But anyways, I had it off and John urged on Tom was able to text me while I was running How did I get that SMS message because it's not even an iOS message because Tom doesn't have an iPhone and your cell was on my cellular was off. And my Wi Fi was off.

Maybe it caught a an A one of the three. You have

but I had Wi Fi off though. I had everything off except Bluetooth. I had Bluetooth on

it but boots is is very, very short range.

Yeah, I know unless somehow Bluetooth some Bluetooth connect Did to something in but anyways I got I got your text Tom he was he was talking about how he's old school he doesn't mileage, he just writes it on a piece of paper because you listen to his show you're talking about him be there and he's like no disrespect to you guys like no disrespect I don't give a shit if you don't use the stuff that we lose like do whatever works for you so absolutely. You know if you don't have to Tyler you help us out enough so But Steve again sorry about your COVID That sucks. And hope you feel better. All right. Oh, Steve, if you're still on this is about you. So we're on the radio show. And we started Steve doesn't shut up of course this is probably the longest he's been quiet. So he starts talking about D O T, which is Department of Transportation and that are what I think I had asked him if he was driving, he's like, No, I love everything. laughs My insurance Baba bah do to like do t you don't need to do T for driving Uber and Lyft. And I only know do T for my job. I have to get it. It's a physical that you have to go make sure you know they make sure you don't have a hernia. You can see you can hear all that done a sleep apnea and those kind of things. And he's like, Yeah, you need to do teach in and to drive for Uber and Lyft in some states and Colorado for sure. I'm like you are full of shit. Me and Tom on the radio show or just jogging him? I'm like, bullshit bullshit. You don't know you're talking about blah, blah, blah, doing all this stuff. And so during the break, I looked and he was right. You need a D O T physical in the state of Colorado to drive for Uber and Lyft. I don't know why it sounds like a scam because those those physicals cost money. So I just thought it was funny. I have to give a shout out to Steve or Yeah, Steve. Because he was correct. So if you drive in Colorado and you listen to the show, I would like to know that what are you smoking mouth over

there? Oh, no. He gave us more money. Steve.

Steve dammit. Save your money. Buy us booze once every month. There we go once a month once a month. So anyways, yes, if you drive in Colorado, I surprise someplace like Los Angeles. That communist state. You know, all those commie states like I don't

disagree.

We got to get John out of California, man. I'm telling you soon. Soon. Yeah, he need to move like Arizona or Texas? somewhere? Maybe?

Yeah. I actually wouldn't mind visiting California. That's one of my on my lists. You know, I went live there. But

yeah, I went there once for my sister's wedding in San Francisco. And that was kind of really before the real bad homeless situation. I mean, it was kind of there but not super bad. It was okay. i The traffic was nuts, though. I mean, middle of the day, two o'clock is bumper to bumper on the highway. I'm like, What the hell is going on? How do you get anywhere? You don't

use Uber or Lyft? Well, it still takes

forever to get anywhere. Europe yes, we're, I have often I expect we're gonna talk about the the B the finance the read at one. Number eight.

Never read it. One. I thought I actually had that one.

Yep. I'll read a text while you're getting ready.

There you go. So this is a new app. And so App Service, whatever it is called, it's been a so it's ride be laid out. Calm belay takes the financial stress out of driving by protecting your time based earnings shouldn't ever need to worry about a lousy week forcing you to take out a cash advance and drive extra. And basically, I mean, a lot of the, you know, a lot of that people commenting is, is the sad part of there's enough it is out there doing this, which is true. But basically, it's it.

Steer distracting.

If you don't if you don't have Yeah, if you don't have the spine to just keep a basic savings in your account. Yes. And they will do it for you. Yeah. So you if you if you even even as driving Uber or Lyft or any kind of gig work, you're still paycheck to paycheck, work day to work day or whatever how close you are, you can do that. But this is this is basically another company that will do like some kind of a minor, minor paid paycheck advance, if you will. Well, they do take a small 1.25% of income annualized income and it's tax deductible. That's right. That's their fee. So but again, I think so I guess there's a place for those services. Right. And obviously, we heard of, you know, the several other apps doing the same thing. Yeah. but just always make sure that you have just a small Katie and I know it can be difficult, but just keep keep a couple of weeks of pay in your in your paycheck.

It's so hard to do, though.

I know what is it though? I mean, if you just be a little bit, don't I mean, cuz the scary thing about Uber or Lyft is that you don't even have to be used to say your paycheck to paycheck, right? Uber and Lyft. I can be hour to hour. Whether I can eat now or whatever. And that's so scary. It's the complete epiphany of you shoot, you eat what you kill? Well, yeah.

I mean, yeah, it really makes it so that you have to be so disciplined, because if you cash out that 150 bucks you just made well, then, you know, you're like, Oh, I'm gonna go buy a new video game or whatever. And like, I got the money. And then you're like, oh, fuck the rents due the next day. So

eat tomorrow, right?

I mean, I don't know, I never did the cash out. I always did the direct deposit. But yeah, so this basically is an app that does that. I don't know if any, you know, they're not a sponsor anything yet. But yeah, I mean, I guess it would work for some some people. But

I mean, somebody was comparing it to pay the advance cash advance, right. And it's true.

I mean, not really, because they only charge one and a half percent. They're just making sure you have a steady paycheck all week. But honestly, if you get paid every once a week, like direct deposit, then it's kind of the same thing without the fee. Right? Because you have to make that money last the whole week.

No, absolutely. But it's for the week. You don't get paid for something. It's for the week. You are not able to get on the right row, right? Yeah.

Yeah. Anyways, not for me. No, I mean, he says I enjoy driving the best when all the bills are paid. Yep, that's the best time it's like when you drive your car with no car payment when you finally pay it off. You're like, holy shit. This thing drives Nice.

Absolutely, it's Yeah, exactly. Then you also know it's just everything you everything you you make now is gravy, right? Yeah.

Gravy. I love that. Steve keep sending us money. Okay, we gotta get through the Navy. Yeah, we gotta get we gotta get scoot in here. You know me I'm always talking. So this one's kind of funny. This is a tic tac about someone I basically scanning at one house that was seven he brought the whole Toad up. Oh my god are you dealing with me all right. So caught red handed because they walk out while he's scanning the packages. So I thought that was funny. I think I don't think I've delivered more than like four or five even during Christmas to one house. But yeah, he brought the whole tote up. That's, that's pretty funny.

I mean, I must admit there has been days. Yeah, well, he got a couple of packs.

Dude. I'm so lazy with Amazon. Like I'm like, oh, I need this ordered. I literally get on the app and to say ship it. I don't

know what my worst part is. What's up when we get dog food and get it in?

Do you get it through Amazon? See I go through chewy. But yeah, same thing.

They come up with two because we ordered 240 pound box.

Oh my gosh, they hate you. So I know. You need to put one of those little treat things out for them on your porch. You know what I mean? To the porch now I should do that. Yeah, you would. It's covered. So it'd be out of the rain and put a little drinks out there for

sorry. They hate you. They totally hate me. All right, but I don't have to take it from the store anymore.

That's true. I mean, that's the whole point. Right? I mean, you're keeping them I mean, you feel bad for them doing it. But that's their job. They have a job. Right because they get to deliver dog food. Yeah. Is it shitty at times? Yeah, it is. Sometimes you're delivering a little you know, handkerchief that weighs this this month. So it's it's a good? Throw it? Yeah. So Max says my best DoorDash orders have been from Petsmart I wonder if it's because they tip because of the dog food being heavy. I mean, it'd be good With Amazon, but

I don't even think you should. I guess that's bringing a question. Should you be able to tip your Amazon flex driver?

I think, yeah. Well, or the regular Amazon driver? I really think you should. That would be great. I mean, yeah, obviously, you can slip some cash out there. But there's really no way to do it. Now you can with a whole foods, like when you're delivering Whole Foods, which we are getting a whole foods and keloid. They're almost UNbuilding it.

So do you think again, this is another just kind of a spur of the moment? Question. Yeah. Do you think if there's an option for a flex driver, when you checked out on Amazon, it's like, I would like it to be delivered by flex. Would you choose that?

I mean, it doesn't really matter to me.

Nobody again. So let's say you chose that and then there was a matching Tibau after that,

but why would you choose a flex driver over a regular Amazon driver?

I don't know. I'm just asking.

I mean, they're not gig workers. Essentially, the flex drivers are but regular Amazon, they're they're a W two. Right? Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I feel like there should be a way to be tip anyone you want. You know, like, I want to take my garbage man. But I mean, like, what do I take a 20 on the garbage and then he fucking doesn't see it. And then he dumps it into the bin. I'm like shit,

and you can't put them into the mailbox because it's illegal for people.

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Absolutely yeah, you know I mean that's the thing if I had multiple buckets right now of income, I would definitely have that one one card and have them all goes to the same

Yeah, and you get to earn stock for the companies you're working with. Yeah, the lift stock sucks. I'm something I'm trying to not say sucks dick on the show and then I just said it. I don't mind the F word but I should probably not saying that in which I did so I'm sorry to mus financial if you listen to this.

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them. Absolutely. And when it gets posted on the website, we'll put it there. Yeah,

for sure. But anyways, loosen Angel. All right, moving forward.

I still think it's a good idea. What's up, I still think it's a good idea. What is what we'll use when to

move? Well, of course it is their pain is to say that but even

if they weren't paying I know. I know. I'm just teasing. So. So anyway, so now we're going to talk about a new exciting service that Lyft is going to offer.

That's sarcasm was that sarcasm in your voice? Because I think it was

I think is a little bit bullshit but okay.

You're so rude.

No, I know. I know. So they have a new service called Lift assisted. And with new lifts assisted drivers will help riders from door to vehicle. Oh, yeah. So healthcare lift healthcare announced this week delay the launch of lift assistant, which the company described as a service for riders who want a little extra help. lift station announcement that nearly 6 million residents in United States missed or put off health care appointments because transportation problems Lyft is rolling out the service as part of its lift crunch years b2b platform.

Good job in that word.

I know I am. I've been practicing that lift describe the benefits of lift assistance explaining that riders will have an extra few minutes to connect with the drivers helping to reduce misconnections and enhance the rider experience. Another feature of the services that drivers were picking up a passenger will park the car and meet the rider at the front door of the home or facility. Would you do that? There was no way you would get out of the car? No, I don't have the radio

stepson in. No. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it isn't depends on how much it was paying more. Yeah, that's I was gonna ask what is the amount? It doesn't say? It doesn't say Well, I'm gonna need $5 more per ride. I mean, I'm gonna need if I'm getting out opening doors and putting wheelchairs away like

what you're gonna put I mean, whether they use lift assist wheelchair wheelchairs

away yeah, but that's just the luck of the draw. Right? Because all I got some of the wheelchair Okay, that's fine. I'll help them. But you know, if I'm going to if it's specifically to help somebody I feel like I need to get paid more. You wouldn't do it either. Would

you? I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so. Yeah, there's got to be a better times I will be driving I probably would not be doing lifting systems. Right now.

You got greedy drunk at two

I've always driven the party scene. That's part of what's fun for me. Yeah. So

there's got to be a better way to help these elderly people. I mean, don't don't communities have like buses that they drive around for appointment? I mean, it was so

Grand Rapids has the goal bus system Yeah. Right so that you can get get a bus for you know, to transport you back and forth anywhere. But I guess there's situations where there is just what you need. I don't know.

Yeah, I mean, there's always time the family that there's no family around to help out and stuff like that. So alright, Steve, have a good night. Thanks, buddy. All right, so this this next is a lift story as well. And this one's pretty messed up. Let's hope my highlighting work. Joe Collins says this type of service is called insurance work they pay really high prices. I don't know what that means.

I think he's referring to the fact that health services are offered up and paid for by Oh oh, I got chosen health care insurance and so well there's

a lot of rides that I it says don't take any stops don't do anything bah bah blah, but I'm getting paid the same rate with true so. Okay, so this is about a little bit about safety. I mean, we've talked about this in the past but path Lyft driver safety features failed Kristin Phillpotts even before the night he was murdered in early December while Phil paths was driving to make money for his lifelong career of going to veterinary school. Someone stopped his car and tried to carjack him. He ran for safety and soon a text came through from live it looks like you've been stopped for a while. Didn't need help. He answered. Yes. But all he got was an auto reply in return. This is live we could not forward your message. He had apparently missed the link. He was supposed to click to register his reply. I don't know what that means. We are you supposed to pre register for something before you can do that?

No, I just think I don't think you can just click Reply. I think you have to click on a link and then reply.

Oh, got you. Okay, okay, got you. Okay, thank you for explaining that. I read that a couple of times. But anyways, that night, he got got away unscathed. One month later, he wouldn't be so lucky. January, Toby was fatally shot in Champaign, Illinois by three teenagers passengers who were not being charged with his murder. Once again, he received a text from Lyft asking him needing help but this time he couldn't answer and Lyft didn't seem to notice. So Lyft says work hard to develop security features to help drivers and to be safe. In addition, they the company text sends texts also has partnered with ADT. What's interesting is the mother had never did not hear from Lyft after her son was killed, but she did see a local news article in which a Lyft spokesman said the company had attempted to reach him. Reach Phillpotts loved ones to offer support. But mom says she didn't speak to anyone until the police department put her in touch with a company so this is this isn't looking good for them. She also spent three months exchanging emails and phone calls with live customer support agents attempting to get some sort of compensation for the company and clarity on our own hit on answered questions like for instance why Phillpotts last ride is marked as Apple the note that reads admin canceled and reflects a payment of $0 so they're not paying for the ride that took his life she said Lyft group did agree play for kilowatts funeral but only after reisende receipt receipts. Deal. What does that work? De Linden at the e l i n ea T ing. Yeah, each expense. Mom thought she was alone that alone to be inappropriate. But that wasn't the only issue according to screenshot received by protocol when lift sent rice a link where she could accept the payment for the funeral expenses and describe the money as a settlement and release payment. That's rough. Right fuckers like come on. So yeah,

please stop bothering us. Yeah, but,

but just to label it that way. I mean, you're paying for your son's funeral. Like what the hell, dude?

Exactly. I mean, there's no doubt that was lawyers doing Yeah, talking to the mic. Exactly. Well, sorry. That was lawyers. That's kind of doing that part. Right. You're right, that kind of doing the lawyer talk. And not human. Yeah, there wasn't there wasn't the company being humane.

Rice believes Lyft owes drivers a lot more. She argues that companies should provide drivers with insurance that covers more than just accidents, panic buttons and don't require fiddling with an app and a passenger screening process that are at least as forceful as what drivers themselves have to go through.

So that I mean, that brings up a good question. Yeah, it's like so we have we have all these things. But why isn't it possible? Like OnStar has been there forever. Right, right. Why can't we have an OnStar? Button? Yeah, I mean, why can't you build that into the phone? Do you have a button you just click on? No. See,

they already have that. Live? It has the ADT one, you can hit a panic button. She's talking about an actual button like OnStar. Like you can press a button.

What happens if I click on the Add button? Is it then is that just a text that goes back and forth? No, ain't doing shit.

No, no, you're right. It does say I didn't highlight that part. Let me go back to that. Because I'm great. I'm glad you brought that up. Papa, papa, papa, papa. Now I gotta read it. This is good time to do an ad.

Talk about your new tattoo.

New, it's not new. It's old know,

your big lever in a pretty safe neighborhood in LA. It's a suburb. And there's actually been an increase in burglaries. So now I kind of feel sketched out, you know, even delivering food to these people around nine 930 Because I know they're on edge. So, you know, just gotta be careful with your surroundings as a gig worker. Yeah, for

sure.

So Joe Collins says why doesn't Lyft and Uber do some background checks on riders as they do? And drivers? It'd be too expensive.

Yeah. It would be. i That would be nice. I can't find the ATT. But it's it's not just like a tax. Basically, I think if ATT doesn't get a response, they they send, they send help. So I can't quite

DoorDash has the ADT feature, and I haven't used it. But like you said, you press it. And then if you don't respond within, I don't know. 2030 seconds, then it automatically calls 911. For you. It's a nice feature.

I forgot to pop you out, John. Sorry, when you're talking. When you should do a test for us with ADT. You should just hit it and see what happens and just say, Well, don't don't do it right now. Not live on the show.

Well, it's funny because I think the DoorDash app crash it's not loading. No. Starting

Oh, no. Oh, yeah. But I'd be curious what happened to say, Oh, I'm sorry, I accidentally pressed it. But hopefully it would be a little bit better. But yeah, lift safety is is definitely an issue or driver safety in all, but I liked it. I liked the OnStar idea.

I mean, I mean, if they can acknowledge it been there forever. If they

can put a dash cam in that has cell signal, they can put a panic button in there that does the same thing. Right. So

So Joe, Joe goes, Why are drivers required to have a background check? And you? I mean, from that perspective, you are correct?

Well, because they don't Uber doesn't want sex offenders and murderers driving people around. No,

I agree. I agree. But But then again, I've thought about that myself. Is that why then on writers supposed to, you know, have that have the background check? Yeah.

Anyways, no, I'm with you. It's all going to be it's always going to be discussion, that companies need to do more, and they're not doing enough. But what I've always talked to us for, and I've talked about this too, and we've probably talked about on the show, just do the right thing, but if there's a mess up, just do the right thing. Yeah, Joe, I mean, if you don't want to pay criminals, i i Maybe this isn't the gig for you, though. You know what I mean? Like, no offense, but I mean, we you can't discriminate against people and they're just never going to do that. Uber's never going to say you can't ride with us. Now, what I did read somewhere that Lyft monitors rider behavior. So that's interesting. So they may be like, This guy has been a problem before. You know, we need to keep an eye on him. So at least they're looking at that but I don't know. I mean, I don't know i Oh, yeah, we're black. So yeah, that's totally different. I get it, Joe. I don't want to pick up criminals either. But, you know, what would happen if a guy got popped for Okay, in an area that's weed is illegal, right? Do you not want to pick up a guy that got popped for possession? Like I don't you know what I mean? Like, I don't give a shit. I just don't want somebody that's a criminal that's gonna kill me or rob me. But it's one of those things. It just it's an inherent risk of the job, I guess so. And

I also think that maybe when it comes to stuff like that, I don't think you and I really know the danger that some drivers ain't in some areas. No, I mean, guys, we do live in the sheltered Grand Rapids, Michigan.

I mean, shit goes down here. But it's it's it's, it's not like some of the cities You're right. And Illinois. I mean, they're it's a shit show. I don't know where Champagne is, but it's got to be near Chicago with this guy. Got suburb outside of Chicago. Yeah, I've heard of Champaign, Illinois. But yeah. Joe's over here. Bob Black. Bragging about Uber Black. I don't even think we have a Baltimore that's a good Uber Black here. Baltimore is pretty sketchy over there, too.

I think. Yeah. Probably. Some areas. Yeah.

Well, not all of them. But yes, we're fading y'all. We gotta get going. I can tell I can tell ya. 10 o'clock. I know it. We're already a six minutes over. All right. Yes. Well, let's talk about GrubHub. Real quick. One more add in a couple of pictures. And we're out of here.

Right? Yeah. Yeah. So basically, I can't talk anymore. Wow, this is this is getting rough. So just eat takeaway is exploring, selling Grub Hub barely a year after buying the comm which is crazy. I know. They paid $7.3 billion for Grub Hub a year ago with a B with a B Yeah. But basically they don't they there's been no buyer identified in the article. But the idea is what they're saying that Jessie takeaways board confirms his alignment with shareholders in wanting to both create and realize value from the company's highly attractive portfolio of assets. The company said in the trading updated Wednesday. Basically, they think that having grabone on board makes them more. Not liable. That wasn't viable. But yeah, exactly. It's basically probably liable to not worth as much as such management and coming together with advisors actively exploring the introduction of a strategic partner into end or the partial or full sale of GrubHub. So they want to get another partner in to kind of I think eventually buy GrubHub I think what they're finding out is that it's just was not a good strategic move for them to buy drop up. And they've been advised to stay in Europe, which is down, you know, their, their, their home scene, if you will, and that's really where they should focus their their efforts on. The company has faced growing calls from prominent shareholders who divest its GrubHub division. Division just eats takeaway.com completed its acquisition of the US food ordering platform for 7.3. We'd said it already probing Pippin Uber and Germany's delivery hero to a deal after a heated takeover battle.

Yeah, I mean, I don't know why you buy grub up by GrubHub. Anyways, I mean, in my market, it's nothing now it used to be great. You kind of bought it. Well, I want to say they bought it on the cheap. But when you're using the word be for billion, I don't think you're buying anything on it.

If you compare it to what wonderful, you know, Elon Musk just bought Twitter for my gosh, that was gonna

be so interested to see what Twitter is going to do. I'm a big Twitter user. So it's gonna be interesting to see what he does $44

billion, my friend. Think about change, change. Well, yeah, but

think about all the world hunger. He could have ended with that $44 billion.

But did you see that he that was extra interesting.

He doesn't care about the hungry people. No, I do. He moved right on. But I

do but the thing that I thought it was so interesting. Somebody was daring Elon Musk to do that. Oh, really? Yeah. And Elon, he kind of dead back and said, that's fine. But then you you meet me.

Oh, so somebody that had money was daring him to do

something. I forget this. I'm gonna have to look up the story. But there was something about that. And somebody know it. They dared him to sell a certain amount of stock in my memory in Tesla to feed some people something like that. Okay, I forget the whole story. But yeah, it was just

Yeah, I don't know if Elon has that. That. I mean, he's definitely rich and an entrepreneur, but um, Don't think he's like Bill Gates where he gives a shit ton of his money away. You know what I mean?

No, he actually just had a big fight with Bill Gates to on Twitter.

Oh, really? Because it probably because of that, right. It was some

something about how Bill Gates has done a short sale and a lot of Tesla stock and he hasn't bought it back yet. Oh, my God. So. So Joe, no, I don't think you want to eat on buying and owning Uber. I just don't think so.

Joe just wants a free Tesla. Not a free one. But he just wants them to be like, Alright, everyone has to use Tesla.

So Tesla is actually interesting. So we just got back from Denmark. And I've said it before. There is an insane amount of Tesla's in all of Europe right now. Yeah. And what I'm hearing and I'm not trying to negate on Tesla here. I'm not, but I'm hearing is Tesla, it's really not that great of a car.

It's not. And I brought that up to, you know, Larry and I lifting with Larry and I were talking about we're just googoo gaga over Tesla. And we started watching some videos. And I mean, like, it's just videos. Now, they are a technology company. They're not a car company. So exactly. I think everything about the Tesla is great, but it's like the body has some issues. Some you know what I mean? So we'll see how they hold up in that kind of stuff. But yeah, anyways, I mean, I'd take one I mean, not but I mean, I you know, I'd take an escort too, I guess.

But did you hear that the just announced that the newest model won't even come with a charger anymore? What? Yeah, you're not gonna they're not gonna sell it with a charge to buy it? Well, yes. But but I think they're assume is, the assumption is so many people are having a charge while they're working anyways. Yeah. And so they just use people use a local supercharger. And you don't need one at home. Yeah, so it's that so if you want to charge you gotta buy the extra year, so

I'm not gonna lie. Leo did buy his Tesla and I hope he has it by the time the picnic because I frickin wanna ride in that. It's gonna be sweet. So

I actually did. We didn't we're not using it tonight. But I saw a video of a YouTuber who drove a complete driverless car for the first time.

It was one of those ways and drive a driverless car. He wrote in one road. Yeah,

of course, it was one of those. Is it way, way mo or whatever, that. And that was crazy. I mean, there was absolutely no driver in that car.

Yeah. So I tried to pull that video you did share it. And Facebook's hard. They don't. Yeah, it's hard to scrape that and I couldn't find it on YouTube.

But the I would be scared shitless I mean, I'm sorry. It's just this whole, sorry, the content of sitting in a car. And there's no one I know, in the driver's seat. And you're just like, I don't know what I would do.

There was a recent video I think in the last week that a driverless car got pulled over by the cops. And they didn't know what to do with it stopped and then it took off. And then I guess it pulled into a safer area to I don't know it's on YouTube. You can look it up. But Mac Yeah, escort the car. It popped in my head because that was my first car back in 1994. So no, no earlier than that. That's when I graduated high school is like 1992. So yeah, escort the car. But we're gonna talk about are sponsored, di di Di Di Di delivery drivers Incorporated. VDI puts gig workers first. It's the number one contract management solution out there. So basically, they are the human resources for your gig work. They get your tax and stuff together. They have occupational accident insurance, all kinds of stuff. They also are looking for people that actually own a company that are looking for someone to manage the the back end for their gig workers are probably not just gig workers, any workers, right. So I got hired through Walmart, Spark through DDI. And so yeah, they're a great company. Check it out. The link is in the description. But yeah, they they do great Di Di Di Di work.com DDI work.com Yeah, it's in the description. But thank you DDI for supporting the gig economy podcast. All right. Couple more, man. We are way over, but I'm just having so much fun. What do we got here? All right. So this is great. Thank you, John, you're one step ahead of me. So this is crazy. These guys are offering what they're going to pay. They want to get for this route. So this is an Amazon saying Right? So you can reserve it and then if you can see it says request they're requesting 210 For this route 189 For this row. I'm like, That's it.

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him? I want to say Oh, hi, Middleburg Heights, Ohio. Oh, oh, H is Ohio. Right? Yep. Yeah. So I don't know that's interesting that that there you put in a bid for what you'll do it for. I mean, the people around here would still bottom feed At least in Grand Rapids, but

maybe maybe that brings more bottom feeders to it right? Because if they're already seeing well, people want to do it maybe Oh, I'll do it for two nine.

Right? Yeah. The deal for $29

under bidding each other all the time, right?

Real quick. I'm just going to run it out. Yes, for this is interesting. This is a sign out sheet for DoorDash. And I'm sure John can chime in on this. But basically, you have to sign out the food and sign that you took it. I don't know. How legit is this? Or why are they doing this? John?

I'm not sure but doesn't surprise me. I mean, they're already making us fill their drinks, and seal it, which is kind of weird because the seal is supposed to prevent drivers from drinking. And so now they're making a ceiling up. But if I see one of these, I won't be surprised by I think next we're going to be making a bag in the food

Don't lie. You take a sip before you put that top on that so Exactly. Yeah. I mean, why wouldn't you?

But isn't it a Wingstop? We have England as I always visited that a couple of times, you know as x I have done a couple of deliveries. And it was always crazy busy.

Yeah, I don't think it's okay. Tyler says you have to do this. His Wingstop as well. I don't think it's just Wingstop though, but I but clearly, it must be a corporate policy. And then the last one real quick, it says kind of funny from Reddit. Panera didn't have cookies, so they refunded the customer would cash. So literally, it says refund. We did not have enough for cookies for the order and they gave them cash to give back to the customer. I mean, it wasn't 89 cents for a frickin cookie. I mean, I don't know.

But I mean, how many how many cookies to the order? Right? That's the thing? Well,

I don't know. That doesn't look like there's a lot of money in there. I mean, I guess I guess cash doesn't take up a lot of space. But but they'll give cash back. I know. That's stupid. Like DoorDash take care of that by replying through the tablet. Yeah, exactly. Bunch of

idiots. Yeah. I didn't know how to do that. Well,

I mean, yeah. Joe said Uber running Tesla for 350. Week. 1400 a month. Oh, my God. That's a lot. I just go bye. Bye. One, your payments will be 600 a month. Here they are. Yeah, you're right. Uber is taking advantage of desperate people. Why would you do that?

I don't know.

I mean, it's because people probably don't have great credit, right? The only way they're gonna drive a Tesla is if they do it through Uber, because I mean, Tesla's not going to give you a car. If you got a 400 credit score, you're not gonna be able to buy a Tesla for 600 bucks a month. So

the first 14 the first $1,400 a month you make you don't get

Yes. I mean, you're not paying gas. So let's say take 500 Off the top of that. So now you're done tonight?

Well, yeah, but it's like, Yeah, fuck that. Yeah, no.

Anyways, John, thanks for helping out tonight. Stay on. Don't sign off after we're done. Mac. Thank you very much, Joe. Thanks for the comments. Tyler. Of course, I appreciate you very much. Steve's already out he's sleeping. Thanks for all the super chats Janet and Larry. And Megan. She's already in bed. Who else? Mark thank you so much for being smartass. That was funny. And I feel like I'm missing somebody else but

so good. Yeah,

I had a good time. This is way long. So yeah.

Thank you very much, guys. Have a good night. All

right. Bye.

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Hey, everybody. Hey, yeah,

so tonight we have John, Kellyanne Hill, you might see him on camera or you might not he's gonna kind of be helping us run the studio portion of this a little bit. So thanks, John, for helping out real quick if you go to gig economy show.com That's where you find everything gig economy podcast related. You can also join our Tiktok group and our Facebook group. We also have a newsletter. I don't know when the last time it's been out mass Mom, did it go out last month?

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So Larry, since you did mention this, I'm gonna put it up here. Are you coming to the picnic does you Sure, because I mean, a couple of times

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Absolutely. And lift and lifting. Larry, I would love to see both you and John. John committed to that is that is definitely I would like to do that. Yeah. I would also like to mention now that you know, Larry is now in his second in his second like,

career career. Yep. And he's in retirement with a

career. There you go. Right. He still has lots of people, lots of kids to bring to college and stuff I hear so he's not done yet. But if you are looking to move to Bowling Green, absolutely talk to Larry. that's those are some awesome houses that I see your posts on Facebook. Larry, that is just some cool stuff that you're doing that yeah, it's

it's still relatively inexpensive to live in Bowling Green. Yeah, I saw some of the prices I'm like, That ain't bad. Not bad at all. Don't Don't Don't try to buy anything Grand Rapids right now. No, I just I just did that. shits going for a million dollars a pop? I mean, not.

I saw we actually have a house lifted. We have one for $7 million. And Kent County. Do you know? That is crazy.

Is Joe going to the picnic this year? Joe who died? I don't know. I don't know. Mark.

Do we have a Joe?

I don't know of a Joe. Joe Biden. Joe mama, you fucker. That's it

so yeah, thank you guys. Patreon. Also the sale bloquer did that match and the teller mentioned I'm reading with the I'm like Larry fucking Larry, Brian burgundy. He reads whatever's on the teleprompter. We'd love you to join us on telegram we just had Oh yeah, we just had a new member on telegram. His name is Brad Sweeney. And he is okay. I'm gonna slaughter this because you know I'm a dumb Michigander. He's from says Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada. Woohoo. Yeah, that is where he's from. So Brad, thank you so much. He started listening to show about a month ago solely listening to know all oh my god, are you? I'm acting like Brad's listening or Oh, he'll hear this later. But yeah, don't start at number one. Please don't. It was pretty bad.

So he's Tyler Cain. By the way, you may get you killed it.

So I do have a friend that said that's the name colon. So.

Oh, so that's that's your that's how you're gonna know. I'm

gonna fuck it up between now and to the

defendant. Yeah, I'm so sorry. Tyler. I tried to tell him it's Kane, of course. But no,

he didn't. The Dane over there didn't say shit. I would have had no clue. But anyways, thank you, Tyler. He's our newest Patreon member. And we can't thank you enough. All right, I lost my spot. Where are we? Oh, yeah. So join the telegram group. It can be a lot of fun and can be super boring. But if you ever have a comment or a question about any kind of gig related, there's about 4050 people in there. You can ask it on there. I want to give a shout out to Steve Johnson from rideshare. Rodeo. He is very under the weather right now had two molars removed a couple of days ago. And then his son got COVID. And he's pretty sure he has COVID he had to go to the emergency room. Because he has breathing trouble anyway. So COVID doesn't help that at all. He's home resting. So I told him if he wasn't on tonight that we weren't friends anymore. I don't see him. So he's got 4051 minutes to chime in. So

but see Janet, she still makes it every time. Yeah, right. I mean, I don't know. See? What's the what's the problem? Right.

No excuse Janet's always on. I know. Thank you, Janet. Yeah. And then of course the radio show. Or you're on this week, right? Good because I'm out of town.

No, that's your time. No, I

was just on it. That. Yeah. Last Friday.

Were you on the show last Friday. Nobody was on the show. No, that

was two weeks ago, bro. You are like your way out of it. That was two weeks ago. You sir was two weeks ago. And you were on, and I was just on last Friday. So you're on this Friday. Oh, it's good because I'm gone. Where are you going? I gotta go to the cabin and open it. So anyway, it's a chore. I know it is. There ain't no nothing fun. I'm driving three and a half hours working all day Saturday and then driving home Sunday. So boo. I know. Yeah, I gotta help the mother in law. I mean, you know, hopefully the cab will be ours someday. But anyways, the radio show seven nine Eastern on TNC

radio, and apparently I'm gonna be on

it apparently yesterday is going to be on he's not happy about it. It might just be you and Tom. If If Steve is no, no,

yeah. better prepared.

Anyways, let's see. All right, I think that's it. We're going to talk about Irvine's auto repair in Grand Rapids hybrid. They are the studio sponsor. You can call them at five three to 6600. Or you can schedule online Irvine's dot com. Don't believe us, though. Check out all their good Google reviews. I know they pay us to say stuff about them. But the people that are leaving the Google reviews are actual people that have had service. Well, I guess I have to Well, you haven't? No. You haven't. I mean, disrespect.

I know. I know. Yeah. Well, I think the truth of the matter is, we will say all these nice things about him, even if we weren't getting paid.

Yeah, that's true, right? I mean, I mean, I wasn't going there as a regular customer before I started, but I just didn't really know about it. I guess I don't know. I wasn't in this is why they advertised because now people don't go so yeah, obviously if you go there mention our name. And Megan said there's a car show on our show. You know, I will be in Dallas for the podcast. Conference. I'm pretty sure

I'll be in town because that'll be the week after the news festival which I'm doing this year. So yeah, that's gonna

be a sketch month for us and because Aren't you going to Denver or is that July? You're

going to Denmark? I'm going to them in July. Okay,

we're going to just take the whole summer off so Are y'all it's going to be too damn busy.

Hey, Catherine. How you doing?

All right, so first up, we're going to talk about nothing we're gonna want to talk we're gonna watch a video about a drone delivery All right, let's go wow here goes dropping it. Little parachute wow okay, well, it's

fake. It looks fake. Yeah,

I know the audio listeners. i We didn't say much but basically it was a drone. It dropped a box and yes for says it's fake. Right. It's not fake looks. The unit at the Walmart. I did see it. But what why do you think it's fake?

I don't know. It just doesn't look right.

Skeptical

or yesterday says everything's fake. Yeah, he does.

Not. Even the drone look like you're like a 1998 model or something?

No, I look like a no. Those are. When you think of drone. You're thinking the one that Leo has with the helicopters. This was like an airplane

big. Yeah, no, I know. I did. I saw it. I saw the video. Okay.

Do you think that Chris Rock and Will Smith was fake too.

I thought in the beginning it was but looking at the aftermath. No, no,

I agree. I thought it was fake at the beginning too. But it's but can't get dog food. Now. You're right. I wouldn't be able to live that day. No, it wouldn't. Someday, maybe.

And Megan, I reserve the right to maybe be there. I make no promises though.

Oh, my gosh. Megan, you updated your photo on Facebook. I don't know. That's so random that I said that. It just looks different. All right. Yes. We're gonna talk about masks.

Masks. That was a so it's all news today. I'm sure most of you who have been following along what's actually happening. But that was pretty cool. So as of April 19 2020, do riders and drivers are not required to wear masks when using Uber. However, the CDC said we might recommend power stocks basically. What was it they were saying what it was so but there was no lawsuit. Whereas the word I was looking for

there's another picture. John, can you put that

there it is I got dager as a result of a court order effect immediately and as of April 18, CDC Oh, yeah. January 29. order requiring masks on public transportation conveyances and transportation hops. You is no longer in effect. So therefore, there's no masks in. Yeah, Uber, and I'm assuming Lyft either. So, so yeah, that's pretty cool. I think and I am actually actively working on figuring out how to get back on the road and, and and platform Uber. But I must, I must admit that the cost of gas is slowing things down a little bit my enthusiasm. Well,

I mean, there's still money to be made out there. Oh, sure. And now's actually a good time to do it. Because there's not as many drivers out there, I would expect because of the gas. But

if I'm being 100% honest, the van hasn't done much in two years. And I must admit, Megan, I do need to forgive bringing into you and it has something been on my mind because I needed to just give it a one toe turn. Look at everything that's wrong.

Don't tell him to give it a one silver because you're gonna need some lube. I met with everything they're gonna find wrong,

I understand. But there could also be understood in another way.

Another spit take y'all drink. It's I know.

But anyways, it is something I'm actually actively working on getting back on Uber. My My plan is to drive once a week. But again, I gotta get back. And Megan, you can answer this maybe do you guys do? What's it called? The things for Uber? What are the inspection sheets is worse? Yeah, of course. Yeah. So yeah. So I'm gonna have you do that as well. So 55, three to 6600. We know that. I will call you

that is the only number I know in my life other than my own number, like if somebody lives, I struggle sometimes with it. She was a lot. Like few said, What's Irvine's number? I'm like, I can I can tell you right off the bat. So yeah, but

I do know that it's actually making weird noises in the bag, and I gotta bring it in. And so So again, I just need to make sure that is on was on Save once,

of course. And honestly, what's nice is they're gonna tell you everything was wrong, but you don't erase everything. Because the last time they're like you have a small leak and a shock or something, I'm like, that's fine. And like, a week later, it started making a creek noise. And I was like, fuck, what like,

and it's I think it's the things that people always you know, it's the it's always better knowing than not knowing, of course right? And so then you can deal with you can make

your decision and be like, it's not worth it. I'm gonna ride this until the wheels fall off. You know, that's, it's up to you. I mean, obviously they would want you to fix it because a it's the business and be it's better for your car but correct. But I think the if you brought the black one and I think it would the repairs would cost more than the car. Oh, no,

the black. The black one is literally not worth 500 Yeah, but

I mean if you're gonna give that to your son, you're gonna have to make it road ready, though? No,

I am and definitely we are gonna get back we actually made plans to get it back. And I will bring it in to Megan at that point. Because if Max was going to be driving that regularly, I need to there's a couple of minor things that need to be happening. Yeah,

well my goal is to ride the pile drive the pilot till Avery needs it when she starts driver's training in August which is scary. Well, Maxwell

style drivers training last year if you could just get his lacy behind often actually to finish it. That would be good.

Yeah. Anyway, so yeah, what? masks you know, everyone's doing it. I don't know anyone that's listening. If you're having issues with riders or

right, so what exactly and somebody asked earlier, you know, what, what are you what do you do if if somebody comes gets in your car and they are masking? You know, are you supposed to mask and I guess it's up to your your own conscience? Yeah, I mean, Uber and Lyft says, No, you don't have to anymore. But the big thing that comes with that is the force seat has now been unlocked again. Yes. Right. And I think a lot of people forget about that. That was part of it. And so with that also came you no longer have to just You're not required to want to do a three if your party has four, you have to let them sit next to you. Right, but they are the same tone. They are encouraging drivers. So riders to sit in the back. Yeah. And so if there's only a party or three or sit in the back, and don't you know, don't necessarily think about using the front seat.

Yeah, I'm gonna, when I do go back to ride share this fall. I'm gonna miss having that open seat. I kind of like not having anyone out there. I can put my lunch pail up there and all that other stuff. So

yeah, there was you know, I must admit, though, I'm gonna I'm gonna miss all those drunken college boys putting their hands on my legs.

Are you kidding me? You're gonna pack like 15 people in that fucking van.

They're like, but don't do that. It's not gonna be a comfort van anymore. It's too old now. Yeah,

you're you're down to us XL peasants. Anyways, so after all those masks were dropped. There was a market while it's Washington DC, that basically is saying you need to still wear. But anyways, so I'll just have to figure out what I marked. So the basically in Washington DC, you still have to wear a mask, which is kind of weird. And Uber says basically, that you have to follow local regulations for that kind of stuff. But Lyft said, wishes was interesting. So Uber says you don't have to wear a mask when driving with Uber unless required by local authorities, drivers must, using Uber must comply with local rules and regulations. Okay, whatever's staple, then left says there were more vague about it. wearing mask on transportation may still be required by law in some areas, and we encourage riders and drivers to check their local public health requirements before using law. So it doesn't say you must follow local law. So I thought that was interesting, too. Yep. It really doesn't say much in here why they decided to do that. And for all I know, this article was posted. I don't know where it is, but it might be gone now. I don't know. But it's just weird. That they made him do that. But what's your thoughts on

the DC area? I mean, yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I think maybe it's just for some reason, you know, Washington DC is just he still has those requirements in mind. Maybe it's maybe it's a because of the White House thing.

You know, it's funny, you bring that up, because we joked about it on the radio show that it's like all these politicians that are moving in and out. I'm like, if they're high enough, and they're they're not. They're not taking Ubers anyways, I mean, they're they got their own car service. So I don't know. You would

think so. Right? You would think so. But again, do probably have to mean they have to do it for everybody. So yeah,

it's just of course, Washington sees fucking shit up, because it's the government. You know what I mean? God, dang it. Alright, moving forward. Yes. Response talk about labor of love.

labor of love. No. So this is a new app that and actually, I must admit, this is my wife who found it. Yeah, wives came came up on her on her Facebook stream of all places. So L A, B R la bi.com. I believe it even is it's a it's a it's a new local app. Actually. It's Grand Rapids based, as far as I understand. And the idea is that it's, it feels like it's kind of like that. Give a hand or whatever. Some of those ads. Yeah. But the idea you can you can actually use it to both get obviously workers but also become a worker. Yeah. So so the Maya get crazy, a little bit here. So but basically, from the worker, what type of works is it so our clients are looking for extra hands, most jobs needs less than 10 minutes of training, to be ready to work, labor clients work in all kinds of industries, including landscaping, construction, restaurants, moving distribution, and more. So basically, this is probably an answer to probably some of the things that allow that kind of the restaurants and that kind of stuff that are complaining about is they can't get enough help. Yes. And so this is another way for you to add, you know, as we always say, Don't put all your eggs in one basket have many little pockets of income. And so this is another way of being, you know, Kid labor approved. Yep. And if you don't want to drive today, I want to do something else, go do something else go if it's a nice day, get us shift outside working in somebody's yard, or whatever it is. They say they're hiring everybody, at $15 An hour no matter what it is when you start out, but there's an indication that that might change. Now, whether that means it can goes both ways. Based on your reading, I'm assuming some light, okay, I don't know exactly what determines that. But but as you know, they do make a point to say, labor starts our new workers at 15 hours an hour, regardless of the job they select.

So this is not actually a gig job, then this is a 10 this is a

W two. No, it's a 1099

It is so they're paying you regardless of what company you decide to go work for. You're getting paid 15 an hour.

Well, but again, it's a company that hires you, right, so. So the way I assume it is it is that when you first start out no matter what, you get paid $15 An hour and I'm assuming my assumption is somehow based on your rate on your not not your not your higher rate, but your rating rating. Worker Yeah. So somebody you're gonna hire somebody who's gonna hire you for to do X, and they're gonna go in and say, Oh, he did a shitty job. He's only gonna get a one star. And now you only got to get paid $14.95 An hour or whatever. I don't know. But again, that's incentive pay right there, right? Yeah. If you are higher rated So, again, I don't know that that's the case. But that's how I read it.

What's really cool is this is a Grand Rapids based business. Yeah. So I'm pretty excited that to get a hold of these guys. So again,

if you are looking to add a another bucket, and abr.com. And again, I'm not sure that it's in all markets yet, but if not write to them and say, getting on why get right. So yeah, it's a very cool concept, actually, and I'm very interested in seeing and hoping that it'll that'll work out. So yeah, you can see here they start, you know, this, this particular fella here talks about how that they have worked with labor for several months, both in in Arbor and Grand Rapids. So they obviously have been around for for a number of months. So

50 an hour though, man, that's, I mean, it might if you're

being honest with yourself, though, when so sometimes when you're driving, you're not making $15 an hour. After you're paying for taxes and for gas here, there's no gas to pay.

Oh, there isn't, huh? Yeah. Well, no, there's not because just you're driving around. Yeah, you're working, whatever you're driving, it's the company's

whatever it is. Yeah. I mean, you're driving from spot to spot or you're meeting somebody at it at some work?

Yeah. I don't know. I would not be interested in it. But I am interested to talking to them. So I think that's kind of cool.

So yeah, we'll put that out there. If anybody from Labor wants to talk to us. You're actually listening to the show, right? He's reached out. Absolutely. Of course.

It will be a sponsor, la

br.com. We want to talk to somebody from your company and get you get get the pitch, get the pitch, get the pitch. Next one thing that wasn't cool, though. I'll just mention real quick. We always talk about insurance. Right? So they actually provide workers comp insurance while you're working for them. Okay, so I thought that was cool.

Yes. Cool. So next up, Uber admits it misled millions of Australians with cancellation warning. Let me see if my little Linky thing work this time. Hang on.

Linky thing. Let's see. I thought we weren't gonna talk about that one.

That's kinky thing. Oh, let me see. Oh, good. It did work on this site. Okay, so Uber could face huge fine after ostrich misleading millions of Australian users through free cancellation warnings. Spoiler, I'm just gonna let you know, I think this is bullshit this lawsuit. So as we move forward, is basically what it said to the people it says you may be charged a small fee, since your driver is already on their way, the warning read. However, the message did not make clear users were still in the apps five minute free cancellation window. So basically, it didn't tell them that they could cancel and not get charged. Uber admits in it misled Australian users for a number of years and may have caused some of them to decide not to cancel the ride after receiving the cancellation warning, even though they were entitled to cancel free of charge under Ubers own policy, they changed it to the message that said you won't be charged a cancellation fee if users seek to cancel during the free cancellation period. So I mean,

it almost feels a little bit like this cop has warm coffee in it. The message right? Oh, yes. I mean, how far do we have to go? Yeah, bullshit lawsuit a couple years ago, many years ago these today, but we know from from McDonald's. Yeah. That that, you know, may contain hot beverages.

Yeah, no, you're right. You're right. It's like,

okay, it's then read the terms and conditions. I'm sorry, but,

but they're gonna find them $26 million for that. So you know, I'm all for suing people,

to that money ends up into the lawyers company. Yeah,

I'm all fine for suing people if something's really wrong, but I mean, come on. My wife just got something in the she tried this app called new. It's like a weight loss app or whatever. And it's supposed to like, it's supposed to be this. I don't know this woke app that does a dozen different whatever. They got sued for something too for like overcharging or something. And she's like, Yeah, I'll be part of it. I think the payouts like 500 bucks. I know. I was like, usually when they're like, 510 bucks. I'm like, I'm not even dealing with that. I was like, You better fill that shit out.

I actually got it was the funniest thing I got to check out two months ago. It was some dairy product that apparently I bought. I don't know. But it was $7 $7

I mean, it's, it's it's a Bougie cup of coffee.

I know. It's so long, right? Yeah, but it was so long. I couldn't even remember I filled it. Did you cash it? Well, yeah. $7 $7

I mean, if it's in my hand, I'm cashing out $1 Check if it's in my hand and That's how much I'm going to do for work to do. All right, we're going to talk about one of our sponsors, Middleton tech. So Middleton tech as basically their goal is to make you drive safer. But also it makes you more money. If you notice on the slide that John just put up, the Make More money's a little bit bigger. I know Gary probably kicked me in the nuts for saying that, because it's all about driver safety, which I do see people complaining about DoorDash a lot about how many times you have to tap things to cancel. But it's Middleton technologies. They have the app drivers utility help helper, which is for DoorDash. They have Maximo which is for GrubHub UberEATS. Basically everything else and then flex alert, if you're a Amazon flex driver. That one doesn't really do any automation. But the Maximo is what you really need to get. They all do come with free versions, I believe. But most of them have a subscription, but it pays for itself in the first day. Check it out, try it out. It basically sets up auto decline, auto accept that kind of stuff. And just basically any any what am I trying to say? I don't not template, any. Any feature you want anything you want to control on on the app, you can do it with his his apps.

Nice. So now flex alert will tell you when when new routes get posted. Right.

Yeah, it's it's really interesting. It will not grab a route for you. It's not a route. Grauer. So you still have to tap it, but so it doesn't violate Terms of Service. But yeah, it'll also tell you if someone grabs a route, someone else grabs a route and then a number of routes have changed. It does that so it it definitely Tyler says flexibility is great. doesn't accept the blocks but saves your finger because basically yeah, it basically auto refreshes all the time. Yeah, basically. So it's worth it.

So your buddy Steve came on. You know what not to do. But our buddy

yeah, thank you Steve. You are still in the fold with the family. I did warn earlier you had 51 minutes to chime in if you didn't you were out of the fold. Of course I'm kidding we love you. Thank you Larry parameters. That was the word I'm looking for. Again, you know, I went to private school so that you know, English and talking is not my my forte

but and that's not even any alcohol. I know

I know I'm only water tonight y'all so

it is water. It is water always gin from

gross but anyways, yeah, check out metals and tech did a link in the description so

Hey, Steve, we hope everything is gonna be okay with your buddy. He will

he'll be fine. He'll be fine he's he's a tough cookie. He's a fucking snowboarder this dude snowboards and like not regular places and 98 degrees 90 Well, you can in Colorado you can be in a banana hammock sometimes and snowboard and be fine. And not that we want to see Steven a banana hammock but I will be seeing Steven something's sketchy and in Dallas hopefully not. No, no.

Are you guys sharing room?

No, we got an Airbnb has three fucking bedrooms. There's no way Larry, me and Steve. We all have our own room. Again. You know, I got COVID Last time I went. And Larry didn't because we had separate rooms. Thank God.

Do you guys have to share the bathroom?

Yeah, we do. John, we do have to share the bathroom. I'm gonna make I'm gonna make each of us clean the bathroom after we use it. Oh, there's

layers. Preferably at the same time, right?

Yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna have we're gonna have a stream or we're gonna fight lightsabers. Okay, this is getting weird. Yes, we're talking about this guy that turned in the capital rioter.

I don't know if I can. No, actually, I do want to talk about my new hero because man, when I read this article, I thought that was just the coolest thing. So basically, again, find the article. Hang on one second.

Come on. John would have had it up by now. Had one

up by now. Oh, oh. We're not even ready. I know. I wasn't even ready. Yeah, I know. So anyways. I think the Jeopardy

theme song right now I

know. I know. Did you did you? There is no slide. You didn't even put a talk. So on the rundown, an Uber driver turned in and accused capital rioter who was caught boasting about the interaction on the car's dash cam. So that's kind of cool, actually. And obviously we all know about what why are we talking about and the article states that 800 people has been a is has been arrested and More than about two or 300. I know and more 250 people are being prosecuted so far. For the riots. Yep, it is. It's pretty crazy. So I'm trying to get the actual numbers here. Hang on. Yep, more than 800 people have been arrested in connection with a capital riot and 250 to over 53 riders have pleaded guilty. That's fine. So that's pretty crazy. That's pretty crazy. And actually, it the story does end with the guy from the Uber car, pleading guilty to everything that he's going on. But he was basically he was in the car. And the driver just said, you know, he obviously they were they were in DC. And so the driver had kind of stopped devices by saying, hey, what a crazy day, huh? And then he basically started, like, almost almost just kind of, what's it called boasting about how he was part of it? Yeah, bragging? Well, last time around there, right. When I got there, brown responded, I tore down the barricades. He got you did the drive. I asked. Why? Well, because he couldn't get to the Capitol. Well, how'd that work out for you? So anyways, so after he dropped him off, he actually called and tip the local police. And they picked him up and yeah, that was cool. And, and part of the part of what was recorded in the car when they were actually able to use as, as evidence in court for what happened oh, that was even they were able to they were able to the face of the of the of the writer, they were able to find him also in some recordings that that media had done. Yeah. And that was one point, you see him hitting another man with a camera with me hitting a meeting media man, if you will, with with a piece of wood over the head, like oh, my gosh, people are just idiots,

you know, that brings up I bet has well, he pleaded guilty, everything, that's fine. But he could probably have an attorney say I wasn't privy to that, like the recording, you know what I mean? Like, no one told me this is being recorded, blah, blah, blah. And then the conversation comes up. Is Uber inside Uber car. Is that considered public area? Or is that a private conversation?

Well, it all depends on. I mean, first of all, they would be able to just do it with the, with the face only because they were able to use that face and find him true. Right. So they have this they don't even have to use the audio for it. But but the question then becomes this DC a single, you know, dual? State so who knows?

Yeah, just a conversation to say like, I think most attorneys, even Brian from legal rideshare I heard I think it was on a show with Steve I think Steve had him on from rideshare rodeo. He had said that you can you can expect privacy in a Uber or Lyft it's just yeah, you just can't do it. So

But anyways, I just thought it was a cool story. And he is now officially my new. My new my new friend, my new hero friend hero. Yep. And we have a new dare Steve, thank you so much. We had the first there had been posted 999 Who's gonna beat it? Come on.

Well, who actually won last time? I think it was John that actually won because he did one set over but then Steve did a double dip. So it's got to be it's got to be in one thing. You can't double dip. Steve. Thank you. I really appreciate that. Hey, Tom, thanks for joining. I was on a run the other day and I this is so random. And Tom texted me while I was running, but I had turned so tell me how this happens. This is complete frickin squirrel right here. I was running and I turned my cellular off. So I can listen so this is weird. So okay, I'm backing up even more. So I got Spotify right and so I downloaded a playlist on my phone store is getting long I don't so i i download the the playlist and maybe I'm just a Boomer and I don't know how this works so I downloaded on my phone right okay fine. So I play it then all of a sudden my son plays something on our Spotify account and then cuts my now it but it doesn't default to the downloaded playlist. So the only way I can play that without my son Cutting in is I have to turn this other off but again if anyone knows what the fuck I'm doing wrong, just let me know. But anyways, I had it off and John urged on Tom was able to text me while I was running How did I get that SMS message because it's not even an iOS message because Tom doesn't have an iPhone and your cell was on my cellular was off. And my Wi Fi was off.

Maybe it caught a an A one of the three. You have

but I had Wi Fi off though. I had everything off except Bluetooth. I had Bluetooth on

it but boots is is very, very short range.

Yeah, I know unless somehow Bluetooth some Bluetooth connect Did to something in but anyways I got I got your text Tom he was he was talking about how he's old school he doesn't mileage, he just writes it on a piece of paper because you listen to his show you're talking about him be there and he's like no disrespect to you guys like no disrespect I don't give a shit if you don't use the stuff that we lose like do whatever works for you so absolutely. You know if you don't have to Tyler you help us out enough so But Steve again sorry about your COVID That sucks. And hope you feel better. All right. Oh, Steve, if you're still on this is about you. So we're on the radio show. And we started Steve doesn't shut up of course this is probably the longest he's been quiet. So he starts talking about D O T, which is Department of Transportation and that are what I think I had asked him if he was driving, he's like, No, I love everything. laughs My insurance Baba bah do to like do t you don't need to do T for driving Uber and Lyft. And I only know do T for my job. I have to get it. It's a physical that you have to go make sure you know they make sure you don't have a hernia. You can see you can hear all that done a sleep apnea and those kind of things. And he's like, Yeah, you need to do teach in and to drive for Uber and Lyft in some states and Colorado for sure. I'm like you are full of shit. Me and Tom on the radio show or just jogging him? I'm like, bullshit bullshit. You don't know you're talking about blah, blah, blah, doing all this stuff. And so during the break, I looked and he was right. You need a D O T physical in the state of Colorado to drive for Uber and Lyft. I don't know why it sounds like a scam because those those physicals cost money. So I just thought it was funny. I have to give a shout out to Steve or Yeah, Steve. Because he was correct. So if you drive in Colorado and you listen to the show, I would like to know that what are you smoking mouth over

there? Oh, no. He gave us more money. Steve.

Steve dammit. Save your money. Buy us booze once every month. There we go once a month once a month. So anyways, yes, if you drive in Colorado, I surprise someplace like Los Angeles. That communist state. You know, all those commie states like I don't

disagree.

We got to get John out of California, man. I'm telling you soon. Soon. Yeah, he need to move like Arizona or Texas? somewhere? Maybe?

Yeah. I actually wouldn't mind visiting California. That's one of my on my lists. You know, I went live there. But

yeah, I went there once for my sister's wedding in San Francisco. And that was kind of really before the real bad homeless situation. I mean, it was kind of there but not super bad. It was okay. i The traffic was nuts, though. I mean, middle of the day, two o'clock is bumper to bumper on the highway. I'm like, What the hell is going on? How do you get anywhere? You don't

use Uber or Lyft? Well, it still takes

forever to get anywhere. Europe yes, we're, I have often I expect we're gonna talk about the the B the finance the read at one. Number eight.

Never read it. One. I thought I actually had that one.

Yep. I'll read a text while you're getting ready.

There you go. So this is a new app. And so App Service, whatever it is called, it's been a so it's ride be laid out. Calm belay takes the financial stress out of driving by protecting your time based earnings shouldn't ever need to worry about a lousy week forcing you to take out a cash advance and drive extra. And basically, I mean, a lot of the, you know, a lot of that people commenting is, is the sad part of there's enough it is out there doing this, which is true. But basically, it's it.

Steer distracting.

If you don't if you don't have Yeah, if you don't have the spine to just keep a basic savings in your account. Yes. And they will do it for you. Yeah. So you if you if you even even as driving Uber or Lyft or any kind of gig work, you're still paycheck to paycheck, work day to work day or whatever how close you are, you can do that. But this is this is basically another company that will do like some kind of a minor, minor paid paycheck advance, if you will. Well, they do take a small 1.25% of income annualized income and it's tax deductible. That's right. That's their fee. So but again, I think so I guess there's a place for those services. Right. And obviously, we heard of, you know, the several other apps doing the same thing. Yeah. but just always make sure that you have just a small Katie and I know it can be difficult, but just keep keep a couple of weeks of pay in your in your paycheck.

It's so hard to do, though.

I know what is it though? I mean, if you just be a little bit, don't I mean, cuz the scary thing about Uber or Lyft is that you don't even have to be used to say your paycheck to paycheck, right? Uber and Lyft. I can be hour to hour. Whether I can eat now or whatever. And that's so scary. It's the complete epiphany of you shoot, you eat what you kill? Well, yeah.

I mean, yeah, it really makes it so that you have to be so disciplined, because if you cash out that 150 bucks you just made well, then, you know, you're like, Oh, I'm gonna go buy a new video game or whatever. And like, I got the money. And then you're like, oh, fuck the rents due the next day. So

eat tomorrow, right?

I mean, I don't know, I never did the cash out. I always did the direct deposit. But yeah, so this basically is an app that does that. I don't know if any, you know, they're not a sponsor anything yet. But yeah, I mean, I guess it would work for some some people. But

I mean, somebody was comparing it to pay the advance cash advance, right. And it's true.

I mean, not really, because they only charge one and a half percent. They're just making sure you have a steady paycheck all week. But honestly, if you get paid every once a week, like direct deposit, then it's kind of the same thing without the fee. Right? Because you have to make that money last the whole week.

No, absolutely. But it's for the week. You don't get paid for something. It's for the week. You are not able to get on the right row, right? Yeah.

Yeah. Anyways, not for me. No, I mean, he says I enjoy driving the best when all the bills are paid. Yep, that's the best time it's like when you drive your car with no car payment when you finally pay it off. You're like, holy shit. This thing drives Nice.

Absolutely, it's Yeah, exactly. Then you also know it's just everything you everything you you make now is gravy, right? Yeah.

Gravy. I love that. Steve keep sending us money. Okay, we gotta get through the Navy. Yeah, we gotta get we gotta get scoot in here. You know me I'm always talking. So this one's kind of funny. This is a tic tac about someone I basically scanning at one house that was seven he brought the whole Toad up. Oh my god are you dealing with me all right. So caught red handed because they walk out while he's scanning the packages. So I thought that was funny. I think I don't think I've delivered more than like four or five even during Christmas to one house. But yeah, he brought the whole tote up. That's, that's pretty funny.

I mean, I must admit there has been days. Yeah, well, he got a couple of packs.

Dude. I'm so lazy with Amazon. Like I'm like, oh, I need this ordered. I literally get on the app and to say ship it. I don't

know what my worst part is. What's up when we get dog food and get it in?

Do you get it through Amazon? See I go through chewy. But yeah, same thing.

They come up with two because we ordered 240 pound box.

Oh my gosh, they hate you. So I know. You need to put one of those little treat things out for them on your porch. You know what I mean? To the porch now I should do that. Yeah, you would. It's covered. So it'd be out of the rain and put a little drinks out there for

sorry. They hate you. They totally hate me. All right, but I don't have to take it from the store anymore.

That's true. I mean, that's the whole point. Right? I mean, you're keeping them I mean, you feel bad for them doing it. But that's their job. They have a job. Right because they get to deliver dog food. Yeah. Is it shitty at times? Yeah, it is. Sometimes you're delivering a little you know, handkerchief that weighs this this month. So it's it's a good? Throw it? Yeah. So Max says my best DoorDash orders have been from Petsmart I wonder if it's because they tip because of the dog food being heavy. I mean, it'd be good With Amazon, but

I don't even think you should. I guess that's bringing a question. Should you be able to tip your Amazon flex driver?

I think, yeah. Well, or the regular Amazon driver? I really think you should. That would be great. I mean, yeah, obviously, you can slip some cash out there. But there's really no way to do it. Now you can with a whole foods, like when you're delivering Whole Foods, which we are getting a whole foods and keloid. They're almost UNbuilding it.

So do you think again, this is another just kind of a spur of the moment? Question. Yeah. Do you think if there's an option for a flex driver, when you checked out on Amazon, it's like, I would like it to be delivered by flex. Would you choose that?

I mean, it doesn't really matter to me.

Nobody again. So let's say you chose that and then there was a matching Tibau after that,

but why would you choose a flex driver over a regular Amazon driver?

I don't know. I'm just asking.

I mean, they're not gig workers. Essentially, the flex drivers are but regular Amazon, they're they're a W two. Right? Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I feel like there should be a way to be tip anyone you want. You know, like, I want to take my garbage man. But I mean, like, what do I take a 20 on the garbage and then he fucking doesn't see it. And then he dumps it into the bin. I'm like shit,

and you can't put them into the mailbox because it's illegal for people.

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Absolutely yeah, you know I mean that's the thing if I had multiple buckets right now of income, I would definitely have that one one card and have them all goes to the same

Yeah, and you get to earn stock for the companies you're working with. Yeah, the lift stock sucks. I'm something I'm trying to not say sucks dick on the show and then I just said it. I don't mind the F word but I should probably not saying that in which I did so I'm sorry to mus financial if you listen to this.

Well, you didn't say no no.

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them. Absolutely. And when it gets posted on the website, we'll put it there. Yeah,

for sure. But anyways, loosen Angel. All right, moving forward.

I still think it's a good idea. What's up, I still think it's a good idea. What is what we'll use when to

move? Well, of course it is their pain is to say that but even

if they weren't paying I know. I know. I'm just teasing. So. So anyway, so now we're going to talk about a new exciting service that Lyft is going to offer.

That's sarcasm was that sarcasm in your voice? Because I think it was

I think is a little bit bullshit but okay.

You're so rude.

No, I know. I know. So they have a new service called Lift assisted. And with new lifts assisted drivers will help riders from door to vehicle. Oh, yeah. So healthcare lift healthcare announced this week delay the launch of lift assistant, which the company described as a service for riders who want a little extra help. lift station announcement that nearly 6 million residents in United States missed or put off health care appointments because transportation problems Lyft is rolling out the service as part of its lift crunch years b2b platform.

Good job in that word.

I know I am. I've been practicing that lift describe the benefits of lift assistance explaining that riders will have an extra few minutes to connect with the drivers helping to reduce misconnections and enhance the rider experience. Another feature of the services that drivers were picking up a passenger will park the car and meet the rider at the front door of the home or facility. Would you do that? There was no way you would get out of the car? No, I don't have the radio

stepson in. No. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it isn't depends on how much it was paying more. Yeah, that's I was gonna ask what is the amount? It doesn't say? It doesn't say Well, I'm gonna need $5 more per ride. I mean, I'm gonna need if I'm getting out opening doors and putting wheelchairs away like

what you're gonna put I mean, whether they use lift assist wheelchair wheelchairs

away yeah, but that's just the luck of the draw. Right? Because all I got some of the wheelchair Okay, that's fine. I'll help them. But you know, if I'm going to if it's specifically to help somebody I feel like I need to get paid more. You wouldn't do it either. Would

you? I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so. Yeah, there's got to be a better times I will be driving I probably would not be doing lifting systems. Right now.

You got greedy drunk at two

I've always driven the party scene. That's part of what's fun for me. Yeah. So

there's got to be a better way to help these elderly people. I mean, don't don't communities have like buses that they drive around for appointment? I mean, it was so

Grand Rapids has the goal bus system Yeah. Right so that you can get get a bus for you know, to transport you back and forth anywhere. But I guess there's situations where there is just what you need. I don't know.

Yeah, I mean, there's always time the family that there's no family around to help out and stuff like that. So alright, Steve, have a good night. Thanks, buddy. All right, so this this next is a lift story as well. And this one's pretty messed up. Let's hope my highlighting work. Joe Collins says this type of service is called insurance work they pay really high prices. I don't know what that means.

I think he's referring to the fact that health services are offered up and paid for by Oh oh, I got chosen health care insurance and so well there's

a lot of rides that I it says don't take any stops don't do anything bah bah blah, but I'm getting paid the same rate with true so. Okay, so this is about a little bit about safety. I mean, we've talked about this in the past but path Lyft driver safety features failed Kristin Phillpotts even before the night he was murdered in early December while Phil paths was driving to make money for his lifelong career of going to veterinary school. Someone stopped his car and tried to carjack him. He ran for safety and soon a text came through from live it looks like you've been stopped for a while. Didn't need help. He answered. Yes. But all he got was an auto reply in return. This is live we could not forward your message. He had apparently missed the link. He was supposed to click to register his reply. I don't know what that means. We are you supposed to pre register for something before you can do that?

No, I just think I don't think you can just click Reply. I think you have to click on a link and then reply.

Oh, got you. Okay, okay, got you. Okay, thank you for explaining that. I read that a couple of times. But anyways, that night, he got got away unscathed. One month later, he wouldn't be so lucky. January, Toby was fatally shot in Champaign, Illinois by three teenagers passengers who were not being charged with his murder. Once again, he received a text from Lyft asking him needing help but this time he couldn't answer and Lyft didn't seem to notice. So Lyft says work hard to develop security features to help drivers and to be safe. In addition, they the company text sends texts also has partnered with ADT. What's interesting is the mother had never did not hear from Lyft after her son was killed, but she did see a local news article in which a Lyft spokesman said the company had attempted to reach him. Reach Phillpotts loved ones to offer support. But mom says she didn't speak to anyone until the police department put her in touch with a company so this is this isn't looking good for them. She also spent three months exchanging emails and phone calls with live customer support agents attempting to get some sort of compensation for the company and clarity on our own hit on answered questions like for instance why Phillpotts last ride is marked as Apple the note that reads admin canceled and reflects a payment of $0 so they're not paying for the ride that took his life she said Lyft group did agree play for kilowatts funeral but only after reisende receipt receipts. Deal. What does that work? De Linden at the e l i n ea T ing. Yeah, each expense. Mom thought she was alone that alone to be inappropriate. But that wasn't the only issue according to screenshot received by protocol when lift sent rice a link where she could accept the payment for the funeral expenses and describe the money as a settlement and release payment. That's rough. Right fuckers like come on. So yeah,

please stop bothering us. Yeah, but,

but just to label it that way. I mean, you're paying for your son's funeral. Like what the hell, dude?

Exactly. I mean, there's no doubt that was lawyers doing Yeah, talking to the mic. Exactly. Well, sorry. That was lawyers. That's kind of doing that part. Right. You're right, that kind of doing the lawyer talk. And not human. Yeah, there wasn't there wasn't the company being humane.

Rice believes Lyft owes drivers a lot more. She argues that companies should provide drivers with insurance that covers more than just accidents, panic buttons and don't require fiddling with an app and a passenger screening process that are at least as forceful as what drivers themselves have to go through.

So that I mean, that brings up a good question. Yeah, it's like so we have we have all these things. But why isn't it possible? Like OnStar has been there forever. Right, right. Why can't we have an OnStar? Button? Yeah, I mean, why can't you build that into the phone? Do you have a button you just click on? No. See,

they already have that. Live? It has the ADT one, you can hit a panic button. She's talking about an actual button like OnStar. Like you can press a button.

What happens if I click on the Add button? Is it then is that just a text that goes back and forth? No, ain't doing shit.

No, no, you're right. It does say I didn't highlight that part. Let me go back to that. Because I'm great. I'm glad you brought that up. Papa, papa, papa, papa. Now I gotta read it. This is good time to do an ad.

Talk about your new tattoo.

New, it's not new. It's old know,

your big lever in a pretty safe neighborhood in LA. It's a suburb. And there's actually been an increase in burglaries. So now I kind of feel sketched out, you know, even delivering food to these people around nine 930 Because I know they're on edge. So, you know, just gotta be careful with your surroundings as a gig worker. Yeah, for

sure.

So Joe Collins says why doesn't Lyft and Uber do some background checks on riders as they do? And drivers? It'd be too expensive.

Yeah. It would be. i That would be nice. I can't find the ATT. But it's it's not just like a tax. Basically, I think if ATT doesn't get a response, they they send, they send help. So I can't quite

DoorDash has the ADT feature, and I haven't used it. But like you said, you press it. And then if you don't respond within, I don't know. 2030 seconds, then it automatically calls 911. For you. It's a nice feature.

I forgot to pop you out, John. Sorry, when you're talking. When you should do a test for us with ADT. You should just hit it and see what happens and just say, Well, don't don't do it right now. Not live on the show.

Well, it's funny because I think the DoorDash app crash it's not loading. No. Starting

Oh, no. Oh, yeah. But I'd be curious what happened to say, Oh, I'm sorry, I accidentally pressed it. But hopefully it would be a little bit better. But yeah, lift safety is is definitely an issue or driver safety in all, but I liked it. I liked the OnStar idea.

I mean, I mean, if they can acknowledge it been there forever. If they

can put a dash cam in that has cell signal, they can put a panic button in there that does the same thing. Right. So

So Joe, Joe goes, Why are drivers required to have a background check? And you? I mean, from that perspective, you are correct?

Well, because they don't Uber doesn't want sex offenders and murderers driving people around. No,

I agree. I agree. But But then again, I've thought about that myself. Is that why then on writers supposed to, you know, have that have the background check? Yeah.

Anyways, no, I'm with you. It's all going to be it's always going to be discussion, that companies need to do more, and they're not doing enough. But what I've always talked to us for, and I've talked about this too, and we've probably talked about on the show, just do the right thing, but if there's a mess up, just do the right thing. Yeah, Joe, I mean, if you don't want to pay criminals, i i Maybe this isn't the gig for you, though. You know what I mean? Like, no offense, but I mean, we you can't discriminate against people and they're just never going to do that. Uber's never going to say you can't ride with us. Now, what I did read somewhere that Lyft monitors rider behavior. So that's interesting. So they may be like, This guy has been a problem before. You know, we need to keep an eye on him. So at least they're looking at that but I don't know. I mean, I don't know i Oh, yeah, we're black. So yeah, that's totally different. I get it, Joe. I don't want to pick up criminals either. But, you know, what would happen if a guy got popped for Okay, in an area that's weed is illegal, right? Do you not want to pick up a guy that got popped for possession? Like I don't you know what I mean? Like, I don't give a shit. I just don't want somebody that's a criminal that's gonna kill me or rob me. But it's one of those things. It just it's an inherent risk of the job, I guess so. And

I also think that maybe when it comes to stuff like that, I don't think you and I really know the danger that some drivers ain't in some areas. No, I mean, guys, we do live in the sheltered Grand Rapids, Michigan.

I mean, shit goes down here. But it's it's it's, it's not like some of the cities You're right. And Illinois. I mean, they're it's a shit show. I don't know where Champagne is, but it's got to be near Chicago with this guy. Got suburb outside of Chicago. Yeah, I've heard of Champaign, Illinois. But yeah. Joe's over here. Bob Black. Bragging about Uber Black. I don't even think we have a Baltimore that's a good Uber Black here. Baltimore is pretty sketchy over there, too.

I think. Yeah. Probably. Some areas. Yeah.

Well, not all of them. But yes, we're fading y'all. We gotta get going. I can tell I can tell ya. 10 o'clock. I know it. We're already a six minutes over. All right. Yes. Well, let's talk about GrubHub. Real quick. One more add in a couple of pictures. And we're out of here.

Right? Yeah. Yeah. So basically, I can't talk anymore. Wow, this is this is getting rough. So just eat takeaway is exploring, selling Grub Hub barely a year after buying the comm which is crazy. I know. They paid $7.3 billion for Grub Hub a year ago with a B with a B Yeah. But basically they don't they there's been no buyer identified in the article. But the idea is what they're saying that Jessie takeaways board confirms his alignment with shareholders in wanting to both create and realize value from the company's highly attractive portfolio of assets. The company said in the trading updated Wednesday. Basically, they think that having grabone on board makes them more. Not liable. That wasn't viable. But yeah, exactly. It's basically probably liable to not worth as much as such management and coming together with advisors actively exploring the introduction of a strategic partner into end or the partial or full sale of GrubHub. So they want to get another partner in to kind of I think eventually buy GrubHub I think what they're finding out is that it's just was not a good strategic move for them to buy drop up. And they've been advised to stay in Europe, which is down, you know, their, their, their home scene, if you will, and that's really where they should focus their their efforts on. The company has faced growing calls from prominent shareholders who divest its GrubHub division. Division just eats takeaway.com completed its acquisition of the US food ordering platform for 7.3. We'd said it already probing Pippin Uber and Germany's delivery hero to a deal after a heated takeover battle.

Yeah, I mean, I don't know why you buy grub up by GrubHub. Anyways, I mean, in my market, it's nothing now it used to be great. You kind of bought it. Well, I want to say they bought it on the cheap. But when you're using the word be for billion, I don't think you're buying anything on it.

If you compare it to what wonderful, you know, Elon Musk just bought Twitter for my gosh, that was gonna

be so interested to see what Twitter is going to do. I'm a big Twitter user. So it's gonna be interesting to see what he does $44

billion, my friend. Think about change, change. Well, yeah, but

think about all the world hunger. He could have ended with that $44 billion.

But did you see that he that was extra interesting.

He doesn't care about the hungry people. No, I do. He moved right on. But I

do but the thing that I thought it was so interesting. Somebody was daring Elon Musk to do that. Oh, really? Yeah. And Elon, he kind of dead back and said, that's fine. But then you you meet me.

Oh, so somebody that had money was daring him to do

something. I forget this. I'm gonna have to look up the story. But there was something about that. And somebody know it. They dared him to sell a certain amount of stock in my memory in Tesla to feed some people something like that. Okay, I forget the whole story. But yeah, it was just

Yeah, I don't know if Elon has that. That. I mean, he's definitely rich and an entrepreneur, but um, Don't think he's like Bill Gates where he gives a shit ton of his money away. You know what I mean?

No, he actually just had a big fight with Bill Gates to on Twitter.

Oh, really? Because it probably because of that, right. It was some

something about how Bill Gates has done a short sale and a lot of Tesla stock and he hasn't bought it back yet. Oh, my God. So. So Joe, no, I don't think you want to eat on buying and owning Uber. I just don't think so.

Joe just wants a free Tesla. Not a free one. But he just wants them to be like, Alright, everyone has to use Tesla.

So Tesla is actually interesting. So we just got back from Denmark. And I've said it before. There is an insane amount of Tesla's in all of Europe right now. Yeah. And what I'm hearing and I'm not trying to negate on Tesla here. I'm not, but I'm hearing is Tesla, it's really not that great of a car.

It's not. And I brought that up to, you know, Larry and I lifting with Larry and I were talking about we're just googoo gaga over Tesla. And we started watching some videos. And I mean, like, it's just videos. Now, they are a technology company. They're not a car company. So exactly. I think everything about the Tesla is great, but it's like the body has some issues. Some you know what I mean? So we'll see how they hold up in that kind of stuff. But yeah, anyways, I mean, I'd take one I mean, not but I mean, I you know, I'd take an escort too, I guess.

But did you hear that the just announced that the newest model won't even come with a charger anymore? What? Yeah, you're not gonna they're not gonna sell it with a charge to buy it? Well, yes. But but I think they're assume is, the assumption is so many people are having a charge while they're working anyways. Yeah. And so they just use people use a local supercharger. And you don't need one at home. Yeah, so it's that so if you want to charge you gotta buy the extra year, so

I'm not gonna lie. Leo did buy his Tesla and I hope he has it by the time the picnic because I frickin wanna ride in that. It's gonna be sweet. So

I actually did. We didn't we're not using it tonight. But I saw a video of a YouTuber who drove a complete driverless car for the first time.

It was one of those ways and drive a driverless car. He wrote in one road. Yeah,

of course, it was one of those. Is it way, way mo or whatever, that. And that was crazy. I mean, there was absolutely no driver in that car.

Yeah. So I tried to pull that video you did share it. And Facebook's hard. They don't. Yeah, it's hard to scrape that and I couldn't find it on YouTube.

But the I would be scared shitless I mean, I'm sorry. It's just this whole, sorry, the content of sitting in a car. And there's no one I know, in the driver's seat. And you're just like, I don't know what I would do.

There was a recent video I think in the last week that a driverless car got pulled over by the cops. And they didn't know what to do with it stopped and then it took off. And then I guess it pulled into a safer area to I don't know it's on YouTube. You can look it up. But Mac Yeah, escort the car. It popped in my head because that was my first car back in 1994. So no, no earlier than that. That's when I graduated high school is like 1992. So yeah, escort the car. But we're gonna talk about are sponsored, di di Di Di Di delivery drivers Incorporated. VDI puts gig workers first. It's the number one contract management solution out there. So basically, they are the human resources for your gig work. They get your tax and stuff together. They have occupational accident insurance, all kinds of stuff. They also are looking for people that actually own a company that are looking for someone to manage the the back end for their gig workers are probably not just gig workers, any workers, right. So I got hired through Walmart, Spark through DDI. And so yeah, they're a great company. Check it out. The link is in the description. But yeah, they they do great Di Di Di Di work.com DDI work.com Yeah, it's in the description. But thank you DDI for supporting the gig economy podcast. All right. Couple more, man. We are way over, but I'm just having so much fun. What do we got here? All right. So this is great. Thank you, John, you're one step ahead of me. So this is crazy. These guys are offering what they're going to pay. They want to get for this route. So this is an Amazon saying Right? So you can reserve it and then if you can see it says request they're requesting 210 For this route 189 For this row. I'm like, That's it.

What market is that

him? I want to say Oh, hi, Middleburg Heights, Ohio. Oh, oh, H is Ohio. Right? Yep. Yeah. So I don't know that's interesting that that there you put in a bid for what you'll do it for. I mean, the people around here would still bottom feed At least in Grand Rapids, but

maybe maybe that brings more bottom feeders to it right? Because if they're already seeing well, people want to do it maybe Oh, I'll do it for two nine.

Right? Yeah. The deal for $29

under bidding each other all the time, right?

Real quick. I'm just going to run it out. Yes, for this is interesting. This is a sign out sheet for DoorDash. And I'm sure John can chime in on this. But basically, you have to sign out the food and sign that you took it. I don't know. How legit is this? Or why are they doing this? John?

I'm not sure but doesn't surprise me. I mean, they're already making us fill their drinks, and seal it, which is kind of weird because the seal is supposed to prevent drivers from drinking. And so now they're making a ceiling up. But if I see one of these, I won't be surprised by I think next we're going to be making a bag in the food

Don't lie. You take a sip before you put that top on that so Exactly. Yeah. I mean, why wouldn't you?

But isn't it a Wingstop? We have England as I always visited that a couple of times, you know as x I have done a couple of deliveries. And it was always crazy busy.

Yeah, I don't think it's okay. Tyler says you have to do this. His Wingstop as well. I don't think it's just Wingstop though, but I but clearly, it must be a corporate policy. And then the last one real quick, it says kind of funny from Reddit. Panera didn't have cookies, so they refunded the customer would cash. So literally, it says refund. We did not have enough for cookies for the order and they gave them cash to give back to the customer. I mean, it wasn't 89 cents for a frickin cookie. I mean, I don't know.

But I mean, how many how many cookies to the order? Right? That's the thing? Well,

I don't know. That doesn't look like there's a lot of money in there. I mean, I guess I guess cash doesn't take up a lot of space. But but they'll give cash back. I know. That's stupid. Like DoorDash take care of that by replying through the tablet. Yeah, exactly. Bunch of

idiots. Yeah. I didn't know how to do that. Well,

I mean, yeah. Joe said Uber running Tesla for 350. Week. 1400 a month. Oh, my God. That's a lot. I just go bye. Bye. One, your payments will be 600 a month. Here they are. Yeah, you're right. Uber is taking advantage of desperate people. Why would you do that?

I don't know.

I mean, it's because people probably don't have great credit, right? The only way they're gonna drive a Tesla is if they do it through Uber, because I mean, Tesla's not going to give you a car. If you got a 400 credit score, you're not gonna be able to buy a Tesla for 600 bucks a month. So

the first 14 the first $1,400 a month you make you don't get

Yes. I mean, you're not paying gas. So let's say take 500 Off the top of that. So now you're done tonight?

Well, yeah, but it's like, Yeah, fuck that. Yeah, no.

Anyways, John, thanks for helping out tonight. Stay on. Don't sign off after we're done. Mac. Thank you very much, Joe. Thanks for the comments. Tyler. Of course, I appreciate you very much. Steve's already out he's sleeping. Thanks for all the super chats Janet and Larry. And Megan. She's already in bed. Who else? Mark thank you so much for being smartass. That was funny. And I feel like I'm missing somebody else but

so good. Yeah,

I had a good time. This is way long. So yeah.

Thank you very much, guys. Have a good night. All

right. Bye.

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